Projet Griffintown area to be redeveloped -- zone de redéveloppement

200 ans d'histoire et 100 ans d'avenir méritent plus!

Target:
Administration of the City of Montreal Administration de la Ville de Montréal
(English follows)

200 ans d'histoire et 100 ans d'avenir méritent plus que quelques soirées de consultation!

Pétition
demandant à l`Administration de la Ville de Montréal
d'encadrer le rezonage et le redéveloppement de Griffintown
par un processus de consultation réellement démocratique.



Considérant que le processus de consultation publique sur le Programme particulier d'urbanisme (PPU) qui doit encadrer le projet de redéveloppement de Griffintown proposé par Devimco est nettement insuffisant ;

Considérant que pour un projet d'une telle envergure, le PPU prévoit seulement quelques soirées de consultation  publique au niveau de l'arrondissement du Sud-Ouest, négligeant les enjeux critiques d'un redéveloppement qui affectera toute la ville de Montréal ;

Considérant que les outils de planification de la ville tels que le Programme particulier d'urbanisme (PPU) doivent servir à définir des orientations et encadrer les projets, et non pas être élaborés pour faciliter la réalisation de projets privés ;

Considérant que la Ville de Montréal semble avoir choisi le PPU comme outil de rezonage non seulement parce qu'il permet à la ville d'exproprier en faveur d'un promoteur privé, mais parce qu'il lui  permet de rediriger la consultation au niveau de l'arrondissement, et d'éviter ainsi le processus de son propre Office de consultation publique ;

Considérant que les montréalaises et montréalais doivent être partie prenante des discussions et des décisions sur le type de développement souhaité pour Montréal et ses quartiers, plutôt que d'être consultés sur des projets déjà définis ;

Considérant que le projet du promoteur Devimco, qui comprend notamment










  • -l'élargissement et la suppression de plusieurs rues









  • -la création d'un minimum de 5000 places de stationnement souterraines









  • -une dizaine de tours de 17 étages









  • -un million de pieds carrés d'espace commercial

le tout inséré dans une réglementation adoptée en quatrième vitesse par la Ville de Montréal - aurait un impact majeur sur notre ville, et ce pour tout le siècle à venir;


Nous, soussignés, demandons à la ville de Montréal










  • -de stopper ce processus de consultation sérieusement abrégé et accéléré









  • -d'adopter un processus de consultation démocratique qui permette une réelle contribution des montréalais et montréalaises









  • -que ces nouvelles consultations publiques soient dirigées par l'Office de consultation publique de Montréal, à l'échelle de l'agglomération de la Ville de Montréal, et non à l'échelle de l'arrondissement.









  • -que ces consultations portent sur la définition d'un projet qui contribuera à répondre aux nombreux enjeux urbains de la métropole et à offrir de meilleures conditions et qualité de vie pour l'ensemble de la population.


200 YEARS OF HISTORY AND 100 YEARS OF THE FUTURE DESERVE MORE THEN A FEW NIGHTS OF CONSULTATION!



Petition
to the Administration of the City of Montreal
to pursue the rezoning and redevelopment of Griffintown
using a truly democratic consultation process.


Considering that the process of public consultation on the Special Planning Program (SPP), which oversees the proposed redevelopment of Griffintown by Devimco, is clearly insufficient ;

Considering that for a project of this magnitude, the SPP provides only a few nights of public consultation in the South West borough, ignoring critical issues of a redevelopment that will affect the whole city of Montreal ;

Considering that the planning tools of the city, such as the SPP, should be used to establish guidelines and oversee the projects, and should not be used to facilitate the achievement of private projects ;

Considering that the City of Montreal appears to have chosen the SPP as a tool for rezoning not only because it allows the city to expropriate for a private developer, but because it allows the redirection of the consultation process to the level of the Borough, and thus avoids the democratic process of its own Office of Public Consultations ;

Considering that Montrealers must be involved in discussions and decisions about the type of development they want for Montreal and its boroughs, rather than being consulted on projects after they have been defined ;

Considering that the project proposed by the developer Devimco includes










  • -the expansion and the removal of several streets









  • -the creation of a minimum of 5000 underground parking spaces









  • -the building of a dozen 17-storey towers









  • -one million square feet of Commercial space

which was approved in all possible haste by the City of Montreal and would have an unprecedented impact on our city for many years to come;


We, the undersigned, demand that the City of Montreal











  • -stop this abbreviated and accelerated process of consultation









  • -adopt a democratic consultation process that allows a real contribution by Montrealers









  • -that these new public consultations be organized by the Office de consultation publique de Montréal (OCPM) at the agglomeration level of the City of Montreal, rather than merely at the South West Borough level









  • -that these consultations will focus on the definition of a project that will help meet the many challenges of the urban metropolis and offer better conditions and quality of life for the whole population
(English follows)

200 ans d'histoire et 100 ans d'avenir méritent plus que quelques soirées de consultation!

Pétition
demandant à l`Administration de la Ville de Montréal
d'encadrer le rezonage et le redéveloppement de Griffintown
par un processus de consultation réellement démocratique.



Considérant que le processus de consultation publique sur le Programme particulier d'urbanisme (PPU) qui doit encadrer le projet de redéveloppement de Griffintown proposé par Devimco est nettement insuffisant ;

Considérant que pour un projet d'une telle envergure, le PPU prévoit seulement quelques soirées de consultation  publique au niveau de l'arrondissement du Sud-Ouest, négligeant les enjeux critiques d'un redéveloppement qui affectera toute la ville de Montréal ;

Considérant que les outils de planification de la ville tels que le Programme particulier d'urbanisme (PPU) doivent servir à définir des orientations et encadrer les projets, et non pas être élaborés pour faciliter la réalisation de projets privés ;

Considérant que la Ville de Montréal semble avoir choisi le PPU comme outil de rezonage non seulement parce qu'il permet à la ville d'exproprier en faveur d'un promoteur privé, mais parce qu'il lui  permet de rediriger la consultation au niveau de l'arrondissement, et d'éviter ainsi le processus de son propre Office de consultation publique ;

Considérant que les montréalaises et montréalais doivent être partie prenante des discussions et des décisions sur le type de développement souhaité pour Montréal et ses quartiers, plutôt que d'être consultés sur des projets déjà définis ;

Considérant que le projet du promoteur Devimco, qui comprend notamment










  • -l'élargissement et la suppression de plusieurs rues









  • -la création d'un minimum de 5000 places de stationnement souterraines









  • -une dizaine de tours de 17 étages









  • -un million de pieds carrés d'espace commercial

le tout inséré dans une réglementation adoptée en quatrième vitesse par la Ville de Montréal - aurait un impact majeur sur notre ville, et ce pour tout le siècle à venir;


Nous, soussignés, demandons à la ville de Montréal










  • -de stopper ce processus de consultation sérieusement abrégé et accéléré









  • -d'adopter un processus de consultation démocratique qui permette une réelle contribution des montréalais et montréalaises









  • -que ces nouvelles consultations publiques soient dirigées par l'Office de consultation publique de Montréal, à l'échelle de l'agglomération de la Ville de Montréal, et non à l'échelle de l'arrondissement.









  • -que ces consultations portent sur la définition d'un projet qui contribuera à répondre aux nombreux enjeux urbains de la métropole et à offrir de meilleures conditions et qualité de vie pour l'ensemble de la population.


200 YEARS OF HISTORY AND 100 YEARS OF THE FUTURE DESERVE MORE THEN A FEW NIGHTS OF CONSULTATION!



Petition
to the Administration of the City of Montreal
to pursue the rezoning and redevelopment of Griffintown
using a truly democratic consultation process.


Considering that the process of public consultation on the Special Planning Program (SPP), which oversees the proposed redevelopment of Griffintown by Devimco, is clearly insufficient ;

Considering that for a project of this magnitude, the SPP provides only a few nights of public consultation in the South West borough, ignoring critical issues of a redevelopment that will affect the whole city of Montreal ;

Considering that the planning tools of the city, such as the SPP, should be used to establish guidelines and oversee the projects, and should not be used to facilitate the achievement of private projects ;

Considering that the City of Montreal appears to have chosen the SPP as a tool for rezoning not only because it allows the city to expropriate for a private developer, but because it allows the redirection of the consultation process to the level of the Borough, and thus avoids the democratic process of its own Office of Public Consultations ;

Considering that Montrealers must be involved in discussions and decisions about the type of development they want for Montreal and its boroughs, rather than being consulted on projects after they have been defined ;

Considering that the project proposed by the developer Devimco includes










  • -the expansion and the removal of several streets









  • -the creation of a minimum of 5000 underground parking spaces









  • -the building of a dozen 17-storey towers









  • -one million square feet of Commercial space

which was approved in all possible haste by the City of Montreal and would have an unprecedented impact on our city for many years to come;


We, the undersigned, demand that the City of Montreal











  • -stop this abbreviated and accelerated process of consultation









  • -adopt a democratic consultation process that allows a real contribution by Montrealers









  • -that these new public consultations be organized by the Office de consultation publique de Montréal (OCPM) at the agglomeration level of the City of Montreal, rather than merely at the South West Borough level









  • -that these consultations will focus on the definition of a project that will help meet the many challenges of the urban metropolis and offer better conditions and quality of life for the whole population
(English follows)

Pétition
demandant à l%u2019Administration de la Ville de Montréal
d%u2019encadrer le rezonage et le redéveloppement de Griffintown
par un processus de consultation réellement démocratique.



Considérant que le processus de consultation publique sur le Programme particulier d'urbanisme (PPU) qui doit encadrer le projet de redéveloppement de Griffintown proposé par Devimco est nettement insuffisant ;

Considérant que pour un projet d'une telle envergure, le PPU prévoit seulement quelques soirées de consultation  publique au niveau de l'arrondissement du Sud-Ouest, négligeant les enjeux critiques d'un redéveloppement qui affectera toute la ville de Montréal ;

Considérant que les outils de planification de la ville tels que le Programme particulier d%u2019urbanisme (PPU) doivent servir à définir des orientations et encadrer les projets, et non pas être élaborés pour faciliter la réalisation de projets privés ;

Considérant que la Ville de Montréal semble avoir choisi le PPU comme outil de rezonage non seulement parce qu%u2019il permet à la ville d%u2019exproprier en faveur d%u2019un promoteur privé, mais parce qu%u2019il lui  permet de rediriger la consultation au niveau de l%u2019arrondissement, et d%u2019éviter ainsi le processus de son propre Office de consultation publique ;

Considérant que les montréalaises et montréalais doivent être partie prenante des discussions et des décisions sur le type de développement souhaité pour Montréal et ses quartiers, plutôt que d%u2019être consultés sur des projets déjà définis ;

Considérant que le projet du promoteur Devimco, qui comprend notamment
  • l'élargissement et la suppression de plusieurs rues
  • la création d'un minimum de 5000 places de stationnement souterraines
  • une dizaine de tours de 17 étages
  • un million de pieds carrés d'espace commercial
le tout inséré dans une réglementation adoptée en quatrième vitesse par la Ville de Montréal %u2013 aurait un impact majeur sur notre ville, et ce pour tout le siècle à venir;


Nous, soussignés, demandons à la ville de Montréal
  • de stopper ce processus de consultation sérieusement abrégé et accéléré
  • d%u2019adopter un processus de consultation démocratique qui permette une réelle contribution des montréalais et montréalaises
  • que ces nouvelles consultations publiques soient dirigées par l%u2019Office de consultation publique de Montréal, à l%u2019échelle de l%u2019agglomération de la Ville de Montréal, et non à l%u2019échelle de l%u2019arrondissement.
  • que ces consultations portent sur la définition d%u2019un projet qui contribuera à répondre aux nombreux enjeux urbains de la métropole et à offrir de meilleures conditions et qualité de vie pour l%u2019ensemble de la population.
Petition
to the Administration of the City of Montreal
to pursue the rezoning and redevelopment of Griffintown
using a truly democratic consultation process.


Considering that the process of public consultation on the Special Planning Program (SPP), which oversees the proposed redevelopment of Griffintown by Devimco, is clearly insufficient ;

Considering that for a project of this magnitude, the SPP provides only a few nights of public consultation in the South West borough, ignoring critical issues of a redevelopment that will affect the whole city of Montreal ;

Considering that the planning tools of the city, such as the SPP, should be used to establish guidelines and oversee the projects, and should not be used to facilitate the achievement of private projects ;

Considering that the City of Montreal appears to have chosen the SPP as a tool for rezoning not only because it allows the city to expropriate for a private developer, but because it allows the redirection of the consultation process to the level of the Borough, and thus avoids the democratic process of its own Office of Public Consultations ;

Considering that Montrealers must be involved in discussions and decisions about the type of development they want for Montreal and its boroughs, rather than being consulted on projects after they have been defined ;

Considering that the project proposed by the developer Devimco includes
  • the expansion and the removal of several streets
  • the creation of a minimum of 5000 underground parking spaces
  • the building of a dozen 17-storey towers
  • one million square feet of Commercial space
which was approved in all possible haste by the City of Montreal and would have an unprecedented impact on our city for many years to come;


We, the undersigned, demand that the City of Montreal
  • stop this abbreviated and accelerated process of consultation
  • adopt a democratic consultation process that allows a real contribution by Montrealers
  • that these new public consultations be organized by the Office de consultation publique de Montréal (OCPM) at the agglomeration level of the City of Montreal, rather than merely at the South West Borough level
  • that these consultations will focus on the definition of a project that will help meet the many challenges of the urban metropolis and offer better conditions and quality of life for the whole population
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# 549:
2:18 pm PDT, May 14, Gabriel Potvin, Canada
# 548:
9:36 pm PDT, May 10, Prima Baily, New York
# 547:
3:16 am PDT, May 7, Silky Wyld, Wisconsin
# 546:
8:43 am PDT, May 6, Anita Kofta, Wisconsin
# 545:
9:37 pm PDT, May 5, Name not displayed, Wisconsin
# 544:
6:51 pm PDT, May 5, Christine Pellerin, Canada
How can we have a credible history if we raise it and replace it with cheap stores and thoughtless development. Please think of a project that looks toward the future, taking the past into consideration, rather than building something shiny and new, yet empty, with the sole purpose of making a few people a few bucks!
# 543:
12:56 pm PDT, May 5, James Cound, Canada
# 542:
9:59 am PDT, May 5, BiLL Fowlie, Maine
# 541:
3:41 am PDT, May 5, Roxie Schliesman, Wisconsin
# 540:
12:23 pm PDT, May 3, Genevieve Lauziere, Canada
# 539:
12:18 pm PDT, May 1, Kim Barbier, Canada
# 538:
12:07 pm PDT, May 1, Nathalie Proulx, Canada
# 537:
10:55 am PDT, May 1, Margaret Rumscheidt, Canada
# 536:
10:34 am PDT, May 1, Manon Barbier-Nery, Rhode Island
# 535:
5:11 pm PDT, Apr 30, Paddy Duplaine, Canada
# 534:
1:46 pm PDT, Apr 30, Jean Ambrosii, Canada
# 533:
10:05 am PDT, Apr 30, Jana Mickova, Canada
# 532:
9:37 am PDT, Apr 30, Maria Crespo, Canada
# 531:
9:31 am PDT, Apr 30, Till-Arne Hahn, Canada
# 530:
9:00 am PDT, Apr 30, Raisa MacLeod, Canada
There are many examples around the world of great urban development projects. Why can't Montreal add its name to that list?
# 529:
8:53 am PDT, Apr 30, Rebecca Maftoul, Canada
# 528:
8:19 am PDT, Apr 30, Nathalie Batraville, Canada
# 527:
6:48 pm PDT, Apr 29, Julie Demers, Canada
# 526:
3:11 pm PDT, Apr 29, Gilles Pauchard, Canada
pourquoi garder le Horse Palace? (la plus vieille ecurie urbaine en Amerique du nord) pourquoi garder la maison du gouverneur? (sous le pont Jacques Cartier) pourquoi garder l' edifice de THE GAZETTE ? pourquoi garder la statue du square Dorchester? pourquoi garder l'eglise Saint-James? pourquoi garder la Basilique Notre-Dame, le parc du Mont_Royal, le chateau Ramezay, la Ronde, le CAsino (le batiment), le couvent des Soeurs Grises, le parc Lafontaine, le chateau Dufresne, le musee Mc Cord, Pointe a Callieres, l' Hotel-Dieu, le canal Lachine, le musee Marguerite Bourgeoys, le Platerarium, l'edifice Eaton, celui de LA BAIE, le belvedere du Mont-Royal, la place d, armes, le marche Bonsecours et sa chapelle, le seminaire des Sulpiciens, l'edifice de la Banque Royale.....? Et j'en oublie plus que je n'en ai nomme. au fait, savez vous ce qu'est le Patrimoine?
# 525:
12:25 pm PDT, Apr 29, Elisabeth Amey, Canada
WHERE WAS THE TRANSPARENCY? Note that this comment is a barely-edited version of my remarks from the Petition to save the Griffintown Horse Palace - in my view the heart of this place. Some salient points have been made below, most notably the suggestions of No.'s 487, Christiane Magee, who offers real alternatives by mentioning the long-successful European model for inner-city urban planning with forethought. Alison Redmond, number 389, addresses the need for increased transparency/consultation, and the nurturing of existing small-area businesses. Mark Stephen, number 386, voices our fears of a ''bland Americanization.'' And Jeffrey Dungen, number 13, sums up the whole issue most eloquently. Griffintown itself MUST be maintained and redeveloped. Just NOT in the manner that has been proposed. We should be planning such a project with a far more holistic mentality. In a society where we so often ''tear down paradise and put up a parking lot,'' let us, for once, think of a future that contains some of the soul of our collective past. We will have to live, and pay for, a decision that has not been made by ourselves for a long time. The wreaking ball tonight looms ominously over Griffintown. The prognosis does not portend well for what is one of the oldest original settlements on the island of Montréal. Griffintown has been pillaged before; what remains stands defiantly, even after her fate appears sealed. Meanwhile the future is here: developers courted business, private sectors, and the City. The public was the last to know. No wonder the average tax payer has little faith in local government when it appears that ''Public Consultation'' is a mere formality, AFTER the decisions have been taken. Thus, the future will see the Griff packed with view-blocking skyscrapers, multi-level parking garages, etc., etc. Not an awful lot about families, green space, dog-runs, bicycle paths, ecology, nor even the heritage aspect of this magical place. Reminiscent of other Grand Schemes like The Super Hospital, Overdale, Mirabel. Look at their legacy. And luring business away from an already improvished lower downtown area (Ste. Catherine from Atwater towards Guy) is doing nobody but the initial investors a favour. Are the Developers intending to live here?!!!!! Think not. The type of clientele predictable to be attracted to real estate in this area is more likely to be transient. There goes the neighbourhood. There is as well the fact that the existing bridges surrounding the island are already overburdened. Especially by Griffintown: try de la Montagne, Peel, Ottawa, and various other local streets at rush hour. Traffic here is not a headache, it's a Migraine. The whole plan, vamped, re-vamped, whatever, smacks of something put together in great haste. And greed. I'm astounded that something of this calibre would even be considered, let alone accepted. Even given Montréal's deplorable past record with such matters. Yet we STILL have a great opportunity here. Despite the vagaries of the current economy, there exist excellent modalities in other cities around the world that harmoniously combine business/family/green space. And they could actually save the City monies in multiple ways. We additionally have renowned architects and planners right here. Montréal should be putting itself on the map on the forefront of sensible, humane, urban development. NOT wreck, demolish, create another Industrial Park/Wasteland. Montréalers are fatigued by now of the long, pricey, drawn-out fiascos, not to mention the continued embarrassment of some Really Big Disasters :( Big Owe. As we moan about the rising price of gasoline, we should remember that it was on the back of the horse that this city was built. They were still working for us not that long ago. Leo Leonard, owner of the Griffintown Horse Palace, still remembers horses when they so efficiently managed the city's transportation needs. Horses leave very little in the the way of a ''carbon footprint,'' require merely a fair amount of hay/oats/water and shelter. Leo was born in Goose Village, once adjacent to Griffintown, torn down during the Drapeau era to make way for the Bonaventure Expressway. There has been talk of demolishing the Bonaventure, to make room for a series of.... I make my point. I had the distinct pleasure of living next door to Leo's stables for sixteen years. The Horse Palace stands alone as a Cultural Icon. And just in case anyone thinks that the original Griffintowners are all long gone - it ain't so! They come to see the Horse Palace, what remains of St. Ann's Church, and to point to What Once Was There. I hope and pray that someone with influence will come to their senses and help us avoid this disaster. There are ALTERNATIVES.
# 524:
10:49 am PDT, Apr 29, Sandra Baylin, Canada
# 523:
9:44 am PDT, Apr 29, Magda Popeanu, Canada
# 522:
6:18 am PDT, Apr 29, Daniel Grigsby, Canada
# 521:
1:55 am PDT, Apr 29, Rosalyn Trigger, United Kingdom
# 520:
6:55 pm PDT, Apr 28, Peter Lipert, Canada
There are a long list of urban design features that this development has in its current form that work against the mixed use, economically and socially vibrant, and real-estate beneficial characteristics that we have come to expect as Montrealers. The real estate area under consideration is an extremely valuable piece of land that must be developed with the long-term future in mind. Development without foresight and not informed by the time-honoured principles of good design (e.g. new urbanism of Elizabeth Platter-Zyberk; DPZ) are bound to have a legacy of decay and regret--that will span several generations, which will be the next time Montrealers will be faced with the next opportunity to revitalize this area. Having attended the hearing on this project, I was struck by how economic interest and vague statistical presentations (10% green space etc.) semed to be driving the enthusiasm for the the current design. We need to look at what has worked in other cities with similar development challenges in the inner city and then make our decision. We are Montrealers. We know better and deserve the best. Thanks you vey much for reviewing my comments. Merci et bien a vous.
# 519:
1:49 pm PDT, Apr 28, David Hanna, Canada
# 518:
12:57 pm PDT, Apr 28, Catherine Richards, Canada
The historical significance of Griffentown is known to most Montrealers. As someone actively involved in both Canadian Irish Studies and sustainable development public policy I would like to add my name to the list of citizens in favor of greater consultation, creativity, historical and environmental concern regarding the re-development of Griffentown.
# 517:
10:14 am PDT, Apr 28, Farzin Farzaneh, Canada
# 516:
9:08 am PDT, Apr 28, Pamela Shapiro, Canada
This project demands a better consultation procedure in order to preserve the validity of Montreal's planning process.
# 515:
8:21 am PDT, Apr 28, Laurent Lussier, Canada
C'est le site le plus extraordinaire de Montréal et un lieu avec énormément de personnalité. Ce n'est pas un projet à la hauteur de Griffintown ou de Montréal.
# 514:
7:37 am PDT, Apr 28, Jacqueline Tremlin, Idaho
# 513:
7:33 am PDT, Apr 28, Kathleen Logan, Canada
Please save our downtown! Don't let it become a ghost town.
# 512:
6:38 am PDT, Apr 28, Rachel Starr, Canada
I support of the residents of Griffintown who are asking for democracy in their neighborhood. As a resident of the Plateau, I would like to support their rights as citizens.
# 511:
5:43 am PDT, Apr 28, Felicity Tayler, Canada
Please provide leadership in creating a sustainable community through this development (ecological and socio-economic). Set a standard for future development in Montreal so that we can have a city that is economically successful due to careful stewardship.
# 510:
5:23 pm PDT, Apr 27, Christine Thomas, California
# 509:
2:52 pm PDT, Apr 27, Name not displayed, Canada
Le maire Tremblay, ses acolytes et Devimco planifient la destruction d'une partie de la ville de Montréal. Ils n'ont aucun sens civique et aucune vision du futur pour la métropole québécoise. Quelle honte.
# 508:
12:15 pm PDT, Apr 27, Mark McKnight, Canada
# 507:
10:31 am PDT, Apr 27, Zara Myles, Canada
je me souviens de goose village!
# 506:
6:52 am PDT, Apr 27, Name not displayed, Canada
I agree to this petition.
# 505:
5:17 pm PDT, Apr 26, Karyssa Shea, California
# 504:
3:08 pm PDT, Apr 26, Diane Fontaine, Canada
# 503:
11:59 am PDT, Apr 26, Carol Waterman, Canada
Leave our City of Montreal alone! You are destroying our history!!!!
# 502:
7:25 pm PDT, Apr 25, Rebecca Moore, New York
# 501:
6:12 pm PDT, Apr 25, FELIX LECLERC, Canada