Campaign to Retain a Fair Nomination Process
Target:
Senator Hillary Clinton (CC: Democratic National Committee)
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Senator Clinton's campaign has chosen to push to change the rules while the Democratic nominating process is already underway.
Her campaign is advocating for the seating of Michigan and Florida delegates after the Democratic National Committee stripped both states of their delegates in response to each state's decision to move up their primary date.
As Josh Marshall noted, it is inappropriate to "change the rules in midstream to favor one candidate or another." As Joe Gandelman points out, Hillary Clinton made that very argument months ago.
This campaign is concerned that Senator Clintons' attempt to seat delegates from states in which she and her opponents explicitly pledged to not campaign will have disastrous implications for the Democratic Party and the Democratic nomination process. As Ezra Klein warns, "This is the sort of decision that has the potential to tear the party apart."
As a result, we strongly urge Senator Clinton, in the interest of the Democratic Party and the millions of Americans who have a strong interest in avoiding a fractious, divisive Democratic National Convention, to abide by the rules set down months ago and explicitly agreed to by her campaign and abandon her push to have the Michigan and Florida delegates seated in the upcoming Democratic National Convention.
Thank you for your time and consideration.
Concerned Americans for a Fair Nomination Process
Her campaign is advocating for the seating of Michigan and Florida delegates after the Democratic National Committee stripped both states of their delegates in response to each state's decision to move up their primary date.
As Josh Marshall noted, it is inappropriate to "change the rules in midstream to favor one candidate or another." As Joe Gandelman points out, Hillary Clinton made that very argument months ago.
This campaign is concerned that Senator Clintons' attempt to seat delegates from states in which she and her opponents explicitly pledged to not campaign will have disastrous implications for the Democratic Party and the Democratic nomination process. As Ezra Klein warns, "This is the sort of decision that has the potential to tear the party apart."
As a result, we strongly urge Senator Clinton, in the interest of the Democratic Party and the millions of Americans who have a strong interest in avoiding a fractious, divisive Democratic National Convention, to abide by the rules set down months ago and explicitly agreed to by her campaign and abandon her push to have the Michigan and Florida delegates seated in the upcoming Democratic National Convention.
Thank you for your time and consideration.
Concerned Americans for a Fair Nomination Process
Senator Clinton's campaign has chosen to push to change the rules while the Democratic nominating process is already underway.
Her campaign is advocating for the seating of Michigan and Florida delegates after the Democratic National Committee stripped both states of their delegates in response to each state's decision to move up their primary date.
As Josh Marshall noted, it is inappropriate to "change the rules in midstream to favor one candidate or another." As Joe Gandelman points out, Hillary Clinton made that very argument months ago.
This campaign is concerned that Senator Clintons' attempt to seat delegates from states in which she and her opponents explicitly pledged to not campaign will have disastrous implications for the Democratic Party and the Democratic nomination process. As Ezra Klein warns, "This is the sort of decision that has the potential to tear the party apart."
As a result, we strongly urge Senator Clinton, in the interest of the Democratic Party and the millions of Americans who have a strong interest in avoiding a fractious, divisive Democratic National Convention, to abide by the rules set down months ago and explicitly agreed to by her campaign and abandon her push to have the Michigan and Florida delegates seated in the upcoming Democratic National Convention.
Thank you for your time and consideration.
Concerned Americans for a Fair Nomination Process
Her campaign is advocating for the seating of Michigan and Florida delegates after the Democratic National Committee stripped both states of their delegates in response to each state's decision to move up their primary date.
As Josh Marshall noted, it is inappropriate to "change the rules in midstream to favor one candidate or another." As Joe Gandelman points out, Hillary Clinton made that very argument months ago.
This campaign is concerned that Senator Clintons' attempt to seat delegates from states in which she and her opponents explicitly pledged to not campaign will have disastrous implications for the Democratic Party and the Democratic nomination process. As Ezra Klein warns, "This is the sort of decision that has the potential to tear the party apart."
As a result, we strongly urge Senator Clinton, in the interest of the Democratic Party and the millions of Americans who have a strong interest in avoiding a fractious, divisive Democratic National Convention, to abide by the rules set down months ago and explicitly agreed to by her campaign and abandon her push to have the Michigan and Florida delegates seated in the upcoming Democratic National Convention.
Thank you for your time and consideration.
Concerned Americans for a Fair Nomination Process
We, the undersigned, are concerned Americans and have been dismayed to learn recently that your campaign has chosen to push to change the rules while the Democratic nominating process is already underway.
We were shocked to learn that your campaign is advocating for the seating of Michigan and Florida delegates after the Democratic National Committee stripped both states of their delegates in response to each state's decision to move up their primary date.
As Josh Marshall noted, it is inappropriate to "change the rules in midstream to favor one candidate or another." As Joe Gandelman points out, you yourself made that very argument months ago.
We are concerned that your attempt to seat delegates from states in which you and your opponents explicitly pledged to not campaign will have disastrous implications for the Democratic Party and the Democratic nomination process. As Ezra Klein warns, "This is the sort of decision that has the potential to tear the party apart."
As a result, we strongly urge you, in the interest of the Democratic Party and the millions of Americans who have a strong interest in avoiding a fractious, divisive Democratic National Convention, to abide by the rules set down months ago and explicitly agreed to by your campaign and abandon your push to have the Michigan and Florida delegates seated in the upcoming Democratic National Convention.
Thank you for your time and consideration.
We were shocked to learn that your campaign is advocating for the seating of Michigan and Florida delegates after the Democratic National Committee stripped both states of their delegates in response to each state's decision to move up their primary date.
As Josh Marshall noted, it is inappropriate to "change the rules in midstream to favor one candidate or another." As Joe Gandelman points out, you yourself made that very argument months ago.
We are concerned that your attempt to seat delegates from states in which you and your opponents explicitly pledged to not campaign will have disastrous implications for the Democratic Party and the Democratic nomination process. As Ezra Klein warns, "This is the sort of decision that has the potential to tear the party apart."
As a result, we strongly urge you, in the interest of the Democratic Party and the millions of Americans who have a strong interest in avoiding a fractious, divisive Democratic National Convention, to abide by the rules set down months ago and explicitly agreed to by your campaign and abandon your push to have the Michigan and Florida delegates seated in the upcoming Democratic National Convention.
Thank you for your time and consideration.
We signed the "Campaign to Retain a Fair Nomination Process " petition!
# 4,750:
10:29 am PDT, Jun 5,
Rolando Ramirez, Florida
Hillary deserve and has earned the vp. tiket
Hillary deserve and has earned the vp. tiket
# 4,749:
9:16 am PDT, Jun 4,
KRISTEN WAHEED, Virginia
It might not be fair, but it's so.... So...we will fight with Hillary no matter how long it takes for her to be the president of the United States of America. Please, be fair!
It might not be fair, but it's so.... So...we will fight with Hillary no matter how long it takes for her to be the president of the United States of America. Please, be fair!
# 4,748:
9:33 am PDT, May 31,
B Bird, North Carolina
Come on Clinton's - we've had enough of the pair of you stomping your feet and holding your breath to get your "entitlements" in this country. We want truth - not lies - we want transparency in government - not finger wagging lies in our faces. We DO NOT want the Clintons.
Come on Clinton's - we've had enough of the pair of you stomping your feet and holding your breath to get your "entitlements" in this country. We want truth - not lies - we want transparency in government - not finger wagging lies in our faces. We DO NOT want the Clintons.
# 4,747:
2:30 pm PDT, May 30,
Theresa Quinn, Indiana
If you lose in any other game and then stomp your foot and demand that the rules be changed so that you are the winner, you would be a "sore loser" not a "strong fighter". Please consider the damage you have already done to our party and your own legacy. Do you relly want to go down in history being blamed for a democratic loss in November? Theresa Crown Point, IN
If you lose in any other game and then stomp your foot and demand that the rules be changed so that you are the winner, you would be a "sore loser" not a "strong fighter". Please consider the damage you have already done to our party and your own legacy. Do you relly want to go down in history being blamed for a democratic loss in November? Theresa Crown Point, IN
# 4,746:
12:59 pm PDT, May 29,
Name not displayed, Illinois
It's ironic that Florida helped Governor George W. Bush steal the 2000 election and now it seems that Senator Clinton wants to use Florida to steal the 2008 nomination because she knows that the Democratic nominee is going to win the general election. We've had enough stolen elections, the people have chosen Senator Obama and he should be the Democratic nominee.
It's ironic that Florida helped Governor George W. Bush steal the 2000 election and now it seems that Senator Clinton wants to use Florida to steal the 2008 nomination because she knows that the Democratic nominee is going to win the general election. We've had enough stolen elections, the people have chosen Senator Obama and he should be the Democratic nominee.
# 4,745:
11:05 am PDT, May 29,
Name not displayed, North Carolina
# 4,744:
5:40 am PDT, May 29,
Felice Bright, Georgia
I am saddened by the Clinton's desire to make up their own rules as they go. Their addiction to power is clearly more potent than any other political couple I have seen. Senator Clinton is trying to manipulate this election in her favor and I do believe it is ultimately hurting the Democratic party. The longer she stays in, the longer the two camps will focus their efforts on each other instead of McCain! The Clintons have shown they have no love for the Democratic party or this country. Their egos are far too immense to step down gracefully like John Edwards. Shame on Bill and Hillary Clinton! And absolutely NO to her being on the VP ticket with Senator Obama!!!!! That would be the equivalent of "Sleeping With The Enemy" for Senator Obama!
I am saddened by the Clinton's desire to make up their own rules as they go. Their addiction to power is clearly more potent than any other political couple I have seen. Senator Clinton is trying to manipulate this election in her favor and I do believe it is ultimately hurting the Democratic party. The longer she stays in, the longer the two camps will focus their efforts on each other instead of McCain! The Clintons have shown they have no love for the Democratic party or this country. Their egos are far too immense to step down gracefully like John Edwards. Shame on Bill and Hillary Clinton! And absolutely NO to her being on the VP ticket with Senator Obama!!!!! That would be the equivalent of "Sleeping With The Enemy" for Senator Obama!
# 4,743:
10:38 pm PDT, May 28,
Neal Wade, Alabama
# 4,742:
5:34 pm PDT, May 28,
Chris Anas, California
# 4,741:
4:43 pm PDT, May 28,
Christy Poturkovic, Indiana
Everyone knew the rules about Florida and Michigan going in. It would be completely unfair to change them now because a candidate who's losing needs them to help her.
Everyone knew the rules about Florida and Michigan going in. It would be completely unfair to change them now because a candidate who's losing needs them to help her.
# 4,740:
2:51 pm PDT, May 28,
K SIGGERS, Texas
# 4,739:
9:58 pm PDT, May 27,
Marcia Roth, Washington
If Hillary cannot abide the terms of the DNC agreement she signed along with all of the other candidates, how can we trust her to do what's right for the people of this country? Out of desperation, she's changing the goal posts to achieve a win. It's not fair and it's not right. We haven't seen Barack changing the rules in the middle of the game - even when his counts were down. It is clear which path we should take -- the path of least resistance -- Barack Obama.
If Hillary cannot abide the terms of the DNC agreement she signed along with all of the other candidates, how can we trust her to do what's right for the people of this country? Out of desperation, she's changing the goal posts to achieve a win. It's not fair and it's not right. We haven't seen Barack changing the rules in the middle of the game - even when his counts were down. It is clear which path we should take -- the path of least resistance -- Barack Obama.
# 4,738:
7:11 pm PDT, May 27,
Sharon Wilson-Dopirak, Indiana
I feel that there has to be a way to seat some of the delegets in order to not punish the people of both states. After all it was not their fault that their parties were playing games with the rules. But to seat all of the delegets would be wrong as well. You know in your heart of hearts that making the demand that they should all be seated at the convention would not be fair.
I feel that there has to be a way to seat some of the delegets in order to not punish the people of both states. After all it was not their fault that their parties were playing games with the rules. But to seat all of the delegets would be wrong as well. You know in your heart of hearts that making the demand that they should all be seated at the convention would not be fair.
# 4,737:
6:55 pm PDT, May 27,
Melissa Johnston, Pennsylvania
# 4,736:
5:57 pm PDT, May 27,
Andra Barrow, Oregon
# 4,735:
11:40 am PDT, May 27,
Donald Blackton, Pennsylvania
I will support whatever decision Barack Obama decides to take with regard to Michigan and Florida.
I will support whatever decision Barack Obama decides to take with regard to Michigan and Florida.
# 4,734:
10:13 am PDT, May 27,
Name not displayed, Indiana
I believe each candidate signed an affadavit stating that they would abide by the DNC rules regarding the voting process in the primaries for all states. I strongly urge the committee to stand by it's ruling and not back-slide and cave into Senator Clinton's campaign pressures.
I believe each candidate signed an affadavit stating that they would abide by the DNC rules regarding the voting process in the primaries for all states. I strongly urge the committee to stand by it's ruling and not back-slide and cave into Senator Clinton's campaign pressures.
# 4,733:
8:36 am PDT, May 27,
Brad Davis, California
# 4,732:
7:05 am PDT, May 27,
Eric Wagner, Pennsylvania
# 4,731:
5:56 am PDT, May 27,
Carol Aguero, Texas
It's not fair that two states get to vote again for who they want when the rest of us only got to vote once. It doesnt matter anyway considering that Obama won nearly all the 50 states. And, can get Clinton's winnings once they hear his voice over Mccain's.
It's not fair that two states get to vote again for who they want when the rest of us only got to vote once. It doesnt matter anyway considering that Obama won nearly all the 50 states. And, can get Clinton's winnings once they hear his voice over Mccain's.
# 4,730:
7:06 pm PDT, May 26,
Name not displayed, Indiana
# 4,729:
4:59 pm PDT, May 26,
John Stephano, Virginia
# 4,728:
3:50 pm PDT, May 26,
Name not displayed, Georgia
I'm sure that Senator Clinton established rules in her household for her daughter Chelsea. If her daughter broke a rule, I'm sure there were consequences. Surely Chelsea would not justify any wrong doing to suit her lack of being responsible and following rules. Why should the Democratic Party do the same? If the rule from the start clearly states that if any state moves their primary dates without permission from the DNC, the votes nor delegates do not count. Point blank! Florida and Michigan violated those rules, while the other 48 states followed and obeyed the rules. To amend rules to suit a personal situation is wrong. If you want to seat the delegates, seat them without the votes being counted. Otherwise, it's null and void. That's a wrap!
I'm sure that Senator Clinton established rules in her household for her daughter Chelsea. If her daughter broke a rule, I'm sure there were consequences. Surely Chelsea would not justify any wrong doing to suit her lack of being responsible and following rules. Why should the Democratic Party do the same? If the rule from the start clearly states that if any state moves their primary dates without permission from the DNC, the votes nor delegates do not count. Point blank! Florida and Michigan violated those rules, while the other 48 states followed and obeyed the rules. To amend rules to suit a personal situation is wrong. If you want to seat the delegates, seat them without the votes being counted. Otherwise, it's null and void. That's a wrap!
# 4,727:
2:42 pm PDT, May 26,
Mels Whe, Vermont
# 4,726:
12:28 pm PDT, May 26,
Jay Santana, Iowa
Please to not add further unnecessary drama to this election cycle! Allow the closure of this process to truly begin!
Please to not add further unnecessary drama to this election cycle! Allow the closure of this process to truly begin!
# 4,725:
11:12 am PDT, May 26,
Bruce Meyers, Florida
# 4,724:
10:11 am PDT, May 26,
Cameron Hammond, Maryland
Obama will be the nominee. What part of that does she not understand?
Obama will be the nominee. What part of that does she not understand?
# 4,723:
9:54 am PDT, May 26,
Kyla Hammond, Maryland
First time voting and I can't believe what I'm seeing. She should go away at this point and think about what she's doing to her future or lack there of.
First time voting and I can't believe what I'm seeing. She should go away at this point and think about what she's doing to her future or lack there of.
# 4,722:
12:18 am PDT, May 26,
Name not displayed, Colorado
To me, this is actually such an incredible no-brainer that I couldn't believe that Hillary began taking this tact in the first place. I am marveling (in a quite dreadful way) that the DNC could even consider bowing to the pressure of changing their own rules to, as this petition campaign alludes, such a patently unfair "solution". I hate the idea of the DNC damaging all the credibility our party has gained by flip-flopping on fundamental ethical issues just because a squeaky wheel has flip-flopped herself. I hope this petition is taken seriously.
To me, this is actually such an incredible no-brainer that I couldn't believe that Hillary began taking this tact in the first place. I am marveling (in a quite dreadful way) that the DNC could even consider bowing to the pressure of changing their own rules to, as this petition campaign alludes, such a patently unfair "solution". I hate the idea of the DNC damaging all the credibility our party has gained by flip-flopping on fundamental ethical issues just because a squeaky wheel has flip-flopped herself. I hope this petition is taken seriously.
# 4,721:
11:12 pm PDT, May 25,
Name not displayed, Indiana
You cannot agree to one thing and do another. What a prime example of what Hillary Clintons' presidency would be like.
You cannot agree to one thing and do another. What a prime example of what Hillary Clintons' presidency would be like.
# 4,720:
8:35 pm PDT, May 25,
Becky Kapsalis, Indiana
In fairness to all those voters (and military personnel) who did not participate in the Florida primary because they were told their vote wouldn't count, it would be a travesty of justice to count the votes of those who chose to break the rules. Since when do we reward rule breakers and punish rule abiders? If that's the case, let's not ticket anyone that runs a red light and punish those who don't. And why is Harold Ickes on the rules commission? And why does James Carville act like a benevolent hero by offering to pay for a rules breaking re-vote? Quite frankly I'm disgusted with Chairman Dean for not having the courage to put this to rest many months ago but hopefully the commission will demonstrate their allegiance to justice for all. Seat the Michigan and Florida delegates but, for righteous sake, don't count their votes. What is it about Florida anyway? This is the second time they've messed up the democratic process. Why are they even being given a second or third chance?
In fairness to all those voters (and military personnel) who did not participate in the Florida primary because they were told their vote wouldn't count, it would be a travesty of justice to count the votes of those who chose to break the rules. Since when do we reward rule breakers and punish rule abiders? If that's the case, let's not ticket anyone that runs a red light and punish those who don't. And why is Harold Ickes on the rules commission? And why does James Carville act like a benevolent hero by offering to pay for a rules breaking re-vote? Quite frankly I'm disgusted with Chairman Dean for not having the courage to put this to rest many months ago but hopefully the commission will demonstrate their allegiance to justice for all. Seat the Michigan and Florida delegates but, for righteous sake, don't count their votes. What is it about Florida anyway? This is the second time they've messed up the democratic process. Why are they even being given a second or third chance?
# 4,719:
3:46 pm PDT, May 25,
Janice Gloster, Texas
I am sending a heartfelt plea as an American citizen and a United States Patriot to uphold the Democratic Party electoral process that penalized Florida and Michigan Democratic Parties for violating primary scheduling procedures. Hillary Clinton agreed not to participate in these states' primaries, as did Barack Obama. However, FL and MI proceeded to hold primaries just the same and because Hillary Clinton received a disproportionately larger number of delegates in these rogue primaries that did Senator Obama, she wants these states' delegates seated. How very disingenuous of Mrs. Clinton to take such a position. Doing so undermines the Democratic party's official rules in particular and the electoral process in general. Please say "NO!" to Hillary Clinton's rogue politics. I would like to see a fair outcome for the sake of Florida and Michigan Democrats, but it must be an outcome where Senator Obama and his campaign are in full agreement. My suggestion is to use an objective mathematical formula, such as one that multiplies the total number of victories of Senators Clinton and Obama in all caucuses/primaries across the country by half the total number of registered Democratic voters in FL and MI divided by a real index number of, say, 1,000 to approximate the final figure to be as closely representative as possible of the state's total delegate count of 128/MI and 185/FL. Such as, for Obama, 33 (caucuses/primaries won nationwide as of 5.25.08) x 50,000 (guesstimate of half the registered Democrats in Florida as fair index of voters who would've participated in the primary) = 1,650,000/10,000= 165 for Obama. HRC = 18 x 50,000/10,000 = 90. Since the total of 165+90 =255 and not 185, the actual FL delegate total, we would use 165/255 = .64 x185 =119 (Obama) and 90/255 =.34x185 = 64.75 (Clinton) which equals 119 delegates for Obama and 64.75 for Clinton for the state of FL. In such a case, fair data have been applied in respect to using the national contests won to date and half the number of voters participating in the FL and MI primaries -- or we could be even more exacting by taking the national average percentages of people voting in all states and applying that figure to the voting projection for FL and MI rather than halving the registered voter number -- or more exact still, one can use percentages of voters in the past 1 or 2 elections. Using a mathematics based on nationwide or previous voter data in Fl/MI are the fairest ways to go. Hopefully, the FL/MI voters, the Democratic Party and the Clinton and Obama campaigns agree. .
I am sending a heartfelt plea as an American citizen and a United States Patriot to uphold the Democratic Party electoral process that penalized Florida and Michigan Democratic Parties for violating primary scheduling procedures. Hillary Clinton agreed not to participate in these states' primaries, as did Barack Obama. However, FL and MI proceeded to hold primaries just the same and because Hillary Clinton received a disproportionately larger number of delegates in these rogue primaries that did Senator Obama, she wants these states' delegates seated. How very disingenuous of Mrs. Clinton to take such a position. Doing so undermines the Democratic party's official rules in particular and the electoral process in general. Please say "NO!" to Hillary Clinton's rogue politics. I would like to see a fair outcome for the sake of Florida and Michigan Democrats, but it must be an outcome where Senator Obama and his campaign are in full agreement. My suggestion is to use an objective mathematical formula, such as one that multiplies the total number of victories of Senators Clinton and Obama in all caucuses/primaries across the country by half the total number of registered Democratic voters in FL and MI divided by a real index number of, say, 1,000 to approximate the final figure to be as closely representative as possible of the state's total delegate count of 128/MI and 185/FL. Such as, for Obama, 33 (caucuses/primaries won nationwide as of 5.25.08) x 50,000 (guesstimate of half the registered Democrats in Florida as fair index of voters who would've participated in the primary) = 1,650,000/10,000= 165 for Obama. HRC = 18 x 50,000/10,000 = 90. Since the total of 165+90 =255 and not 185, the actual FL delegate total, we would use 165/255 = .64 x185 =119 (Obama) and 90/255 =.34x185 = 64.75 (Clinton) which equals 119 delegates for Obama and 64.75 for Clinton for the state of FL. In such a case, fair data have been applied in respect to using the national contests won to date and half the number of voters participating in the FL and MI primaries -- or we could be even more exacting by taking the national average percentages of people voting in all states and applying that figure to the voting projection for FL and MI rather than halving the registered voter number -- or more exact still, one can use percentages of voters in the past 1 or 2 elections. Using a mathematics based on nationwide or previous voter data in Fl/MI are the fairest ways to go. Hopefully, the FL/MI voters, the Democratic Party and the Clinton and Obama campaigns agree. .
# 4,718:
3:34 pm PDT, May 25,
Dee Vickers, Wisconsin
I would not like to see Clinton on the Obama ticket. She's scary!
I would not like to see Clinton on the Obama ticket. She's scary!
# 4,717:
12:56 pm PDT, May 25,
Stuart Carroll, New Jersey
I trust that the Rules Committee will be fair to all of the candidates who chose to abide by its decisions about the Florida and Michigan primaries. To now seat the delegates as if those primaries were held under normal circumstances would be unconscionable. By the way, I would see no problem seating the super-delegates from those states, as their preferences are not affected by the results of the tainted votes, but the pledged delegates should not be allocated in a way that would benefit any candidate under these circumstances.
I trust that the Rules Committee will be fair to all of the candidates who chose to abide by its decisions about the Florida and Michigan primaries. To now seat the delegates as if those primaries were held under normal circumstances would be unconscionable. By the way, I would see no problem seating the super-delegates from those states, as their preferences are not affected by the results of the tainted votes, but the pledged delegates should not be allocated in a way that would benefit any candidate under these circumstances.
# 4,716:
12:49 pm PDT, May 25,
Tamahra Cohen, Georgia
# 4,715:
11:51 am PDT, May 25,
Mary Maldonado, Texas
I think it is time to wrap up this process and present a united front against John McCain. I totally support Hillary for vice-president or any other cabinet position of her choosing perhaps supreme court justice. She has done a good job and has made me proud to be a woman. Viva Hillary.
I think it is time to wrap up this process and present a united front against John McCain. I totally support Hillary for vice-president or any other cabinet position of her choosing perhaps supreme court justice. She has done a good job and has made me proud to be a woman. Viva Hillary.
# 4,714:
8:26 am PDT, May 25,
Paul Sabol, Indiana
While no one could have known in advance just how close this race had become. I believe the symbolic act of moving the primaries forward needs to remain symbolic. If the negotiated settlement is ignored at the last minute when it becomes important, the precedent set is disruptive, chaotic, and undesirable. Please avoid making this costly mistake by keeping the primary activity as agreed. Naturally, the party is a party of change. But it is also a party of character. And as such, integrity to the standards set while they matter is primary. Warmly, Paul Sabol
While no one could have known in advance just how close this race had become. I believe the symbolic act of moving the primaries forward needs to remain symbolic. If the negotiated settlement is ignored at the last minute when it becomes important, the precedent set is disruptive, chaotic, and undesirable. Please avoid making this costly mistake by keeping the primary activity as agreed. Naturally, the party is a party of change. But it is also a party of character. And as such, integrity to the standards set while they matter is primary. Warmly, Paul Sabol
# 4,713:
9:41 pm PDT, May 24,
Michael Maldonado, Texas
Once you agree to play by certain rules, you should live or die by those rules!
Once you agree to play by certain rules, you should live or die by those rules!
# 4,712:
6:13 pm PDT, May 24,
Christopher Boyd, Ohio
# 4,711:
6:06 pm PDT, May 24,
Sherry Hunter, Indiana
# 4,710:
4:25 pm PDT, May 24,
Debra Weisz, Florida
I find it very un-American to change the rules in the middle of the "game"! I am a Florida voter and knew PRIOR to the primary elections my vote would NOT count-unlike the 2000 election. I could have stayed home but chose to vote but I am far from disenfranchised because as I explained to my children this is the way the process works, the rules set forth and we MUST abide by them!
I find it very un-American to change the rules in the middle of the "game"! I am a Florida voter and knew PRIOR to the primary elections my vote would NOT count-unlike the 2000 election. I could have stayed home but chose to vote but I am far from disenfranchised because as I explained to my children this is the way the process works, the rules set forth and we MUST abide by them!
# 4,709:
4:15 pm PDT, May 24,
Amanda Stukenberg, Texas
# 4,708:
2:55 pm PDT, May 24,
Tom Krattenmaker, Oregon
Not only should Hillary stop the nonsense about seating the MI and FL delegates. She should quite the race now and back Obama! The assassination comments were the last straw.
Not only should Hillary stop the nonsense about seating the MI and FL delegates. She should quite the race now and back Obama! The assassination comments were the last straw.
# 4,707:
11:17 am PDT, May 24,
Shanda Bates, Nevada
Maintain The Democratic Party's integrity and adhere to your own party rules.Do not overturn the will of the people
Maintain The Democratic Party's integrity and adhere to your own party rules.Do not overturn the will of the people
# 4,706:
10:50 am PDT, May 24,
Adrian Williams, Illinois
Do not raise the bar. Do not move the goal post. Do not erase the finish line. Rules are rules.
Do not raise the bar. Do not move the goal post. Do not erase the finish line. Rules are rules.
# 4,705:
10:38 am PDT, May 24,
Michael Tolbert, Texas
Seat them in a manner that is propertional to the outcome of all of the other primary/caucus results conbined.
Seat them in a manner that is propertional to the outcome of all of the other primary/caucus results conbined.
# 4,704:
10:31 am PDT, May 24,
Tamara Adrine-Davis, Ohio
Partisans of Hillary Clinton had a very large part in making the rules. Both Barack Obama and Clinton agreed to abide by those rules. Obama wasn't even on the ballot in Michigan! It was only when things didn't go well for Clinton that, magically, the rules became untenable. These rules were set for everyone. There is not one set for those times when things are going well for the Clintons and another set for when things are going badly for them. It is time they learned that they have to abide by the same rules and laws as everyone else.
Partisans of Hillary Clinton had a very large part in making the rules. Both Barack Obama and Clinton agreed to abide by those rules. Obama wasn't even on the ballot in Michigan! It was only when things didn't go well for Clinton that, magically, the rules became untenable. These rules were set for everyone. There is not one set for those times when things are going well for the Clintons and another set for when things are going badly for them. It is time they learned that they have to abide by the same rules and laws as everyone else.
# 4,703:
8:40 am PDT, May 24,
Douglas Lueck, Wisconsin
As in parenting children, it is not wise to reward negative behavior (FL, MI and Hillary's). This is nuts. The Democratic Party will permanently lose my membership and work if this goes through!
As in parenting children, it is not wise to reward negative behavior (FL, MI and Hillary's). This is nuts. The Democratic Party will permanently lose my membership and work if this goes through!
# 4,702:
8:27 am PDT, May 24,
Christine Vitrano, New York
# 4,701:
8:01 am PDT, May 24,
Linda Landi, Illinois
Whatever the feelings regarding the DNC's original decision, the other candidates followed the rules. They did not campaign in these states. Obama's name wasn't on the MI ballot. How can it be fair to seat these delegates NOW, when they were not earned fairly?
Whatever the feelings regarding the DNC's original decision, the other candidates followed the rules. They did not campaign in these states. Obama's name wasn't on the MI ballot. How can it be fair to seat these delegates NOW, when they were not earned fairly?
