Banning a certain flavor of tobacco products is discrimination. Eventhough this act is advertising the 'protection' of underaged smokers, all it does diminish the quality and variety of cigarettes/tobacco on the market for people who are of age to smoke. Any minor who wants to smoke is going to smoke whatever they can get their hands on, despite the fact that an 'enticing' package or flavor may be a so called gateway into smoking. In America, we already discriminate against people of different colors, religions, and sexualities, but the government has taken it a step further. Prejudice against different races wasn't enough. Now we have to put up with discrimination against our choice of tobacco. True a person under 18 should not be smoking because it's against the law. However, a person under 21 might be more likely to drink any of the numerous flavored alcoholic drinks that are available, so we should start banning the sale of Puckers, and any flavored Vodkas too, right?
Banning a certain flavor of tobacco products is discrimination. Eventhough this act is advertising the 'protection' of underaged smokers, all it does diminish the quality and variety of cigarettes/tobacco on the market for people who are of age to smoke. Any minor who wants to smoke is going to smoke whatever they can get their hands on, despite the fact that an 'enticing' package or flavor may be a so called gateway into smoking. In America, we already discriminate against people of different colors, religions, and sexualities, but the government has taken it a step further. Prejudice against different races wasn't enough. Now we have to put up with discrimination against our choice of tobacco. True a person under 18 should not be smoking because it's against the law. However, a person under 21 might be more likely to drink any of the numerous flavored alcoholic drinks that are available, so we should start banning the sale of Puckers, and any flavored Vodkas too, right?
We signed the "Banning Cloves is Monopolism and Dogmatism" petition!
# 217:
8:58 pm PST, Jan 14,Scott Smith, Missouri
The sweetness of cloves is a cherished part of my life. This is a b*ll s*it ban and it is unconstitutional from my point of view. Trying to control behavior in one group (underage smoking) by cutting off access to all (no flavor) is like censoring all art to get rid of what you don't like... it's the same road...
# 216:
10:59 pm PST, Jan 9,Daphnie Jones, Florida
I am 29 yrs. old..I prefer smoking clove cigarettes than to illegally smoke mary jane..which i haven't smoked for over 8 yrs.. now since i can't buy cloves, and i can't stand reg cigs, i don't know what to do!! I'm almost tempted to go back to my old ways.. i don't want to, this is depressing..It's not fair for that choice to be taken away from us..what next? no alcohol either?..
# 215:
11:59 pm PST, Jan 8,Dalton Koeshall, Kansas
# 214:
2:06 pm PST, Jan 6,Benjamin Broestl, Ohio
We elect YOU, and yet you take our rights away during the middle of the night. We wake up the next morning and realize YET AGAIN another thing is taken away from us. Once again, we are TOO STUPID to make our own decisions, the government HAS to do it for us, because we are monkeys, idiots. In truth, YOU so called "representatives" are the monkeys. You play with our rights and with our life with little heed or care. How about I come into your life and take something away from you as you did I. How about I ban YOUR favorite vice. How about you can't drink scotch anymore and crash cars or cheat on taxes? That would suck wouldn't it? Well grow some balls and stick up for the people, get a spine, represent US. Nobody wants to actually ban these cigarettes, the people WANT CHOICE, we want OPTIONS. The only people who care about banning these are you politicians with your private interest and your screwed up ideals. I will actively campaign against you if you don't overturn this ban.
# 213:
11:08 am PST, Jan 5,Brittany Lambert, Virginia
I am a 24 year old adult who likes to have a clove with a drink once in a while. I am outraged at the skewed logic that was used to pass this bill - every person I've known who started smoking at a young age started with what was the easiest to get; cheap cigarettes. Since I could only buy my cloves at cigar stores, I highly doubt that any children were venturing in there and trying to buy them. Instead they are pilfering mom and dad's Newports, Marlboros, and Camels. Bring back cloves for the adults who can legally enjoy them, and keep a better eye on your children!
# 211:
5:56 pm PST, Dec 17,Claire Howard, Texas
# 210:
11:06 am PST, Dec 9,Name not displayed, Georgia
As an american citizen i should have the right to make my own decision on what kind of cigs to smoke. It is overboard to ban certain types,kids will smoke whatever they get there hands on.
# 209:
1:57 pm PST, Dec 7,Jeanne Romlein, Michigan
This is America. We're supposed to have the freedom to make our own choices. As well, kids do not start by smoking flavored cigarettes such as cloves! They start with the cheapest thing they can buy - usually Newports. Education is the way to prevent the younger generation smoking once they're an adult, not dictating what those who are already adults can smoke.
# 208:
4:11 am PST, Dec 6,Name not displayed, New York
# 207:
7:16 pm PST, Dec 5,Name not displayed, New York
bring back FLAVORED TOBACCO!
# 206:
10:23 pm PST, Dec 2,Jennifer Mason, Florida
I am a 33 year old adult who has smoked only clove cigarettes since I was 22 years old. I do not and have never smoked regular cigarettes and am OUTRAGED that my government has taken this right away from me! Choice is the cornerstone of this country and its economy, yet here I am being forced to either quit smoking or switch the kind (not brand, but KIND) I smoke. As an adult who knows the consequences of smoking, it should be left to me to decide, not to my government. Once 1 seemingly small item is outlawed, it makes one wonder......what is next?
# 205:
9:10 am PST, Nov 30,Samantha Wright, North Carolina
I am outraged that the US government has banned clove cigarettes.
# 204:
1:30 pm PST, Nov 25,Eric Zounes, Oregon
# 203:
3:04 am PST, Nov 22,Jennifer Dziak, Ohio
Unless a child is researching types of cigarettes, goes into cigarette stores, or has an older friend or relative who smokes, they wouldnt even know about Djarums! BUt i sure as hell know they know about flavored vodka, you see the commercials for absolut limon and even three olives bubblegum all the time! You can't outlaw something because you think it has an effect on children who have no right to vote and whose PARENTS are responsible for telling them not to smoke, not me! I paid my damn taxes!!!! I supported Obama up until this, this is ridiculous! I agree with Ginger Kuroishi about Mcdonalds, we're not doing anything about child obesity, and thats definitely happening much more than underage smoking!
# 202:
7:39 pm PST, Nov 19,Name not displayed, Texas
I waited to start smoking until i was 20. I chose cloves because of the taste. normal cigarettes taste terrible in my opinion.
Aside from personal preferences, this is ridiculous. EVERY underage smoker i knew smoked the cheapest nastiest menthol available. Then again, nobody i knew would have been willing to shell out twice as much for a pack of cloves.
still. This is ridiculous and i would like to see this revoked.
# 201:
1:39 pm PST, Nov 19,Brittanny Graves, Maine
Even IF they are marketed to the underaged, they won't smoke them; they're too harsh!
# 200:
9:57 pm PST, Nov 17,Ginger Kuroishi, California
I cannot believe my forefathers died to preserve the freedoms we have here in America., only to have them ripped away by card carrying Socialist(Facist more like it!)> I don't eat meat of any kind but I don't expect to infringe on anyone elses right to do so. The number one killer in this country is heart disease, yet there seems to be a McDonalds on every corner. Why hasn't the ACLU stepped in one this. Is this not discrimination in every sense?
# 199:
3:45 pm PST, Nov 17,Hector Medrano, California
# 198:
3:08 pm PST, Nov 17,Name not displayed, Texas
# 197:
5:23 pm PST, Nov 16,Antoine Brister, Pennsylvania
# 196:
1:27 pm PST, Nov 16,Robin McCoy, California
As a nonsmoker, I could care less about these laws. As an American citizen, this blows me away. This is an obvious encroachment on the part of the FDA. I am a guardian for six teenage boys - I want them to make the decision not to smoke because they know better, not because the government intervenes to prevent them from "possibly making the wrong decision." There is no way to justify this foolishness.
# 195:
7:08 am PST, Nov 16,Kevin Campton, North Carolina
# 194:
11:13 am PST, Nov 15,Kimberly Campton, North Carolina
# 193:
8:53 am PST, Nov 15,Kelli Fowler, North Carolina
As an adult in a free country, I should have the right to choose what I put in my body. A review of the statistics shows the banning of clove cigarettes is a red herring. I am extremely disappointed that such a dramatic restriction of my freedoms came from a liberal administration. What's next - banning abortion? Keep your laws off my body.
# 192:
9:29 am PST, Nov 14,Anna Lukavsky, Missouri
# 191:
11:20 pm PST, Nov 12,Donna Adams, New York
I have many comments...1. While I agree with attempt to impact teens' decision to smoke, I believe it is the role of the parent and not the government to do so. We do live in America, no? 2. I have yet to see a teen smoke a clove. 3. If the goernment REALLY wants to impact the rate of teen smoking, why not ban Marlboro, Newport or Camel? These are the brands that most teens buy. Could it be that the governmant gets too much money from these brands being sold? That's just shameful. It seems the real concern is what will effect the governments purse more than our teens lungs.....
# 190:
11:14 pm PST, Nov 8,Makenna McLaughlin, California
# 189:
6:42 pm PST, Nov 6,Name not displayed, New York
I am asking as an American citizen to bring back the distribution of Djarum Black clove cigarettes. I find it ironic how these are now illegal, yet McDonalds it perfectly legal. However, if you eat 20 Big Macs, I highly doubt you'll wake up in the morning. I am asking to PLEASE bring these back. If these are illegal then menthols and alcoholic beverages should should be too. It's only fair. As an adult, I want to choose what I put into my body.
Sincerely.
# 188:
11:53 pm PST, Nov 5,Nicholas Holbrook, Arkansas
The new ban on cloves and other flavored cigarettes is overstepping American's freedom to smoke what they want. We that are of legal age do not need to be penalized for "the children". The gov't needs to find alternative means of making it harder for cigarettes to be found in the hands of children. On the contrary, if this new ban was because "flavored cigarettes" attract more younger smokers, then why wasn't menthol a banned flavor? It is a ridiculous law that is only wiping out the competition for the American companies.
# 187:
3:55 pm PST, Nov 2,Kim Brown, Indiana
# 186:
7:43 pm PDT, Oct 31,Name not displayed, Pennsylvania
i dont like inhaling CRAP. thats why i smoke djarum cigarettes
# 185:
12:54 am PDT, Oct 29,Name not displayed, Arizona
This is another example of extreme prohibition, just wait next will be menthol and then all other cigarettes. Anyone remember learning about the alcohol prohibition? This is just another flavor.
It is getting very tiring to be told as an adult in the USA (Where we are supposed to have FREEDOM OF CHOICE) What we can and cannot do.
This is just another flock of stupid people going "oh, for the children", no it is just for their own satisfaction that they get to pick and choose what we are and aren't allowed to do in a so called free country, because they know what's best for us. Psh, really I know what is best for you too, leaving me and my right to smoke cloves alone!
WHILE yes we are free to do most things we want to do, unlike other countries, how long do you think that will honestly last? The government has slowly been whittling away out rights as a people, in this nation, for years. What do you think the founders of this country would think of how their free nation, has become a free nation "with exceptions".
# 184:
7:12 pm PDT, Oct 22,Nicole Smith, South Carolina
Funny how they ban all flavored cigarettes EXCEPT menthol, which accounts for about 30% of the tobacco sales in the U.S. Shows exactly how much control Big Tobacco has in Washington.
Thank you Phillip Morris.
# 183:
1:07 pm PDT, Oct 22,Nathan Shumaker, Massachusetts
# 182:
9:44 pm PDT, Oct 20,Name not displayed, Ohio
# 181:
7:12 am PDT, Oct 19,Kara Mullins, Arizona
As a teen I smoked Marlboro Lights and Camels because they were cool. It is only as an adult that I refined my tastes and actually chose cloves because they taste nice and not like a smokestack. This is ridiculous and I agree that if we start here then we should move forward to banning flavored alcohol. I do not drink at all. This is my only vice and this is so upsetting. These are available everywhere except the United States so now all we are doing is giving our business to other countries and hurting small business owners here.
# 180:
11:23 pm PDT, Oct 18,Turahn Hayden, Michigan
out of all the tobacco,products available in the U.S, WHY!?, DJARUM?,i live in a small town, these maybe a bit to or on price, but that is not the issue, the real issue is that the government is doing this because we, the people or so it is said, i guess no longer matters to "our", i guess so called government,these were the one of only tobacco products i tired over the year(s),that i actually liked the most, and now they are going, KUDOS Washington,and(insert word(s) here)that is what i have to say, and if the man don't like it, well, he she / it(insert word(s)here)and i guess for now it is only DJARUM(s),what next?,JELLO?,i am surprised that candy cigarettes, are not the issue?, and that is called sarcasm,it is meant to be ironic, because the government is a moron,and there is some thing that all of us can do, stop electing these people, into office, but we do, again this is not the issue, but we the people can put a stop to this, issue,if not for the people then why not do this for all of America!,
# 179:
10:16 am PDT, Oct 16,Jordan Ringer, Virginia
# 178:
8:14 am PDT, Oct 16,Michael Newport, Oklahoma
# 177:
6:37 pm PDT, Oct 14,Name not displayed, Ohio
# 176:
12:10 pm PDT, Oct 14,Name not displayed, Texas
It is not up to the FDA to regulate the tobacco industry. It is not up to the U.S. tobacco companies to limit the American people's right to choose. It is up to the American voter to vote out the politicians that feel the need to "protect us from ourselves" instead of protecting our rights and freedoms.
# 175:
7:30 pm PDT, Oct 13,Name not displayed, Connecticut
# 174:
2:41 pm PDT, Oct 12,Tina DeWeese, Washington
Banning flavored cigarettes is not going to stop anyone from smoking. If anything, it's going make smoking that much more appealing for the young! It's also going to create yet another black market in which the product will no longer be regulated, putting more poison out there for the young to indulge in!
# 173:
12:51 pm PDT, Oct 12,Chris Young, Pennsylvania
I am 26 years old, and I shouldn't have my freedoms taking from me because you think that kids "might" be more inclined to by clove cigarettes? Let me see the research to back this up, no seriously, if you are making such a ridiculous claim then you need to provide data to support it. This is just wrong, menthol is the flavor of choice from teens you can ask anyone who sells cigarettes and they will tell you the same thing, and the fact that you left this out, only means that you are on the side of the American tobacco giants and it is not right. Teens can not afford to smoke a pack of clove cigarettes, they go with what is cheap and wildly available everywhere, which is usually Marlboro or some form of menthol, so if you really are concerned with the children, whom aren't even supposed to be smoking to begin with, why only target a small clique? You can not be that short sighted that you can not see the error of this judgment, and if you are, you should not be in charge of what I can and can not do with my own body. Seriously, if you are going to use this logic, you had better ban, all flavored alcohol products because teens probably account for the majority of it consumed. I smoke at most, a pack of cloves a week, and that is at maximum. I am not addicted to them, I just enjoy one now and again, and that is the majority of the people who smoke them. I am appalled that you thought you could slide this bill through on such false premises for the sole reason of helping the American tobacco industry pick up a few more dollars. This is not what being an adult should feel like, let me live my life, and let parents take responsibility for their children. Put all this time and money into something that will at least not line the pockets of tobacco CEOs, and maybe do some good for the country. I am very disappointed with the priorities, and the lack of any personal responsibility that this government is pushing with this bill. Thousands of children in this country are under-education, under-fed, over-fed, dying from curable diseases, all over people are struggling to make ends me, unemployed, being oppressed for their sexual preferences, being denied birth controll, being killed over seas in wars, the list goes on and on, and this is what you choose to do, deny adults, who have payed their dues as a child, the right to smoke a clove cigarette? And your going to mask it as, helping the children, when its obvious you are only helping the American tobacco industry. You are the reason people still are suffering, you are your need to impose your lifestyle onto others, you make me sick.
# 172:
9:36 am PDT, Oct 12,Donald Saylor, Michigan
I loathe the day that our nation, that I have fought for time and time again overseas, enacts legislation such as this, and determines for me what I can and cannot consume. This law is obsurd and unconstitutional. The individual rights of the people must be protect from the federal government.
# 171:
8:13 am PDT, Oct 12,Amber Gilligan, New York
I believe that I should have the same rights as Mr. Obama does as a 29 yr. old American citizen. Mr. Obamas favorite cigarette happens to be a menthol, mine is a clove. The difference between the two his is legal and my Djarums are not. Even though the most popular brand of cigarette is a menthol and leads to more deaths. This act of protectionism, is what I fear a scary glimpse of our future as American citizens.
# 170:
7:12 pm PDT, Oct 11,Jamie Foster, Texas
They were my favorite and i am 20.
# 169:
4:51 am PDT, Oct 11,Name not displayed, Alabama
# 168:
1:36 am PDT, Oct 10,Raymundo Avila, Minnesota
# 167:
10:06 pm PDT, Oct 9,Name not displayed, Utah
Just one more example of how Mr. Obama is stripping away our freedoms one by one!!!
# 166:
2:51 pm PDT, Oct 9,Name not displayed, California
This nanny govenment is slowing eroding all of our rights to free choice and free will. They insiduously do it in the name of 'the children' or protecting us from ourselves or whatever noble excuse they dream up to strip us of our freedoms. What we NEED is to be protected from this govenrment!
Guess what it's ALREADY illegal for 'the children' under 18 to smoke. Enforce the exisiting laws and quit legislating away adult Americans rights.
For all you smoker-haters thinking this doesn't affect you whilst you guzzle a couple gallons of sugery soda, there is currently legislation under consideration to institute a tax on soda and other fattening food. Who knows what's next on their agenda. You may hate smoking but unless YOU want to be the next to lose something YOU enjoy, you had better start defending the rights of everyone.
# 165:
5:48 am PDT, Oct 8,Kristen Ryan, Virginia
The 'President' has once again shown too much power. I did not vote for him & will continue to fight against everything he says & does. Pretty soon we'll be standing in line for bread & toilet paper. It is a scary thought! Anyway, we have a horrible man for a president & am scared at what will be around the corner.
# 164:
3:52 am PDT, Oct 8,Name not displayed, New Jersey
what happened to freedom?
# 163:
12:21 am PDT, Oct 8,Name not displayed, California
I have been smoking cloves for a year now, they are my favorite thing to smoke. Like below smoke regular cigarettes makes me sick. If they do want even start to end underage smoking, BAN MENTHOLS.
# 162:
3:37 pm PDT, Oct 7,Name not displayed, New Jersey
My grandmother passed away of lung cancer, so I am FULLY aware of the risks of smoking and I was against smoking until i realized it's not up to me to decide if a person smokes. I didn't even start smoking until well into my twenties. i started out with marlboro and then three years later decided on cloves. The FDA has no real proof that people dont like tobacco.Banning flavored smokes wont stop underage smoking. Trust me I see it everyday and isn't it a law that kids are not allowed to buy smokes under the age of 19, well at least in jersey. But my point is if a cop sees a thirteen kid walking down the street with a bottle of jack he'll stop the kid, but I know cops that drive passed at least 15 kids daily who are under age smoking. Is this not a crime? further more where are these young kids buying these cigaretts?! maybe we need to stop blaming flavors and start cracking down on the real laws. I mean whats next? Are you going to ban condoms because oh no isn't that telling the youth of america to have sex. What about flavored condoms? Do you think kids will start giving oral at an early age because damn they just cant get enough of the flavor?! I don't think so..it comes down to education and freedom of choice. It's not the governments job to raise the youth of america. It is the governments job to see our rights are being protected not taken away. this issue may seem trivial, but what's next? it starts out taken small freedoms away then what...prohibition again? Yeah right...the government always wants to keep the money flowing because they spend it faster then it can be printed. Cracking down on tobacco, so why is it the guy...the DRUNK driver guy who nearly slaughtered a friend of mine isn't behind bars?! The liqour industry prevails. I feel as if this is also an attack on trade with other countries. Is this the United States way of trying to boost the economy by selling non flavored which from brands I've seen are made in the not always so good as it claims USA. Ultimately making it impossible to get good imported cigs anywhere. If I wanted the american brand, I'd buy it. I want MY BLACK CLOVES back. MY BODY MY CHOICE!!! Canada is looking better every day as more and more rights continue to be taken away. Starts off small so we don't notice and boom before you know it, we are eating and drinking what they think is best for us. It's one big mind game of control. I'm not falling for it. Noone should, so take back the control, take back the flavor and light up! Light up for you and for noone else, not for peer pressure or because its cool because I think most can agree, while smokers do love the crackel of a clove/cig when first lit and that first puff after a long day or night or just because we damn well feel like it..the smell however is not so nice. But it's a love hate relationship. I love the taste, not of just cloves but of tobacco too! So take that FDA trying to tell me what i do or do not like in my body. I don't like smelling of smoke, but honestly I'll deal with it because as I've been saying it's my choice. It's a choice, not a law! Instead of passing laws which take away the rights of smoker or non, shouldnt the FDA crack down on the fact that it is clear FACT the tobacco industry uses a list of poisons. I know the facts, I know every time I light up, I risk cancer or something else,but it's my risk to take not the governments. Bring the troops home, stop blood shed, make health care universal, allow marriage eqaulity for everyone, improve the economy, improve relations with other countrie just focus on the real issues.
# 161:
2:31 pm PDT, Oct 7,Emma Walker, Vermont
I've been smoking clove cigarettes for almost 20 years. They are the only kind I like-both the taste & smell.
Throughout all these years, "normal" (plain tobacco) cigs. made me feel sick, while cloves ones are a crucial self-regulatory mechanism (for my mind & body).
I consider this new law to be arbitrary & punitive, with no allowances made for adults who knowingly choose these particular smokes (and have no appetite for "regular" cigarettes).
# 160:
7:17 pm PDT, Oct 6,Ashley Keever, Oregon
# 159:
4:02 pm PDT, Oct 6,Anne Mack, Pennsylvania
I have NEVER seen someone underage smoking a clove cigarette. Ban menthol if you REALLY want to do something about the underage smoking problem.
# 158:
2:28 pm PDT, Oct 6,Nicole Killinger, Pennsylvania
It is my choice as an adult to smoke, so let me smoke!!!
# 157:
12:17 pm PDT, Oct 6,Erin Wickering, Iowa
I am a free American adult and I should not be policed this way. Banning flavored cigarettes will not stop underage smoking.
# 156:
10:04 pm PDT, Oct 5,Name not displayed, Louisiana
I don't smoke but I do not agree to banning cloves. This is a free country.
# 155:
8:15 pm PDT, Oct 5,Michelle Rossetti, Connecticut
This law has nothing to back it up. Sure, it's not a bad thing, but it takes away the FREEDOM for anyone of any age to choose! It's still tobacco, people who smoke these cigarette WILL keep smoking other kinds of cigarettes.
# 154:
9:03 pm PDT, Oct 4,Debra Andolino, Florida
Clove cigarettes shouldn't be banned. Sure, they're flavored and might be "enticing" to kids, but think about all the adults that smoke cloves too. This is taking away the adult rights. We're supposed to have our freedoms, and don't you think that should be the freedom to smoke what we want to?
# 153:
1:37 pm PDT, Oct 4,Name not displayed, New York
# 152:
10:39 am PDT, Oct 4,K Hollenberg, Texas
# 151:
6:49 am PDT, Oct 4,Michelle Russell, Texas
Obama and his group has America feeling more like the land of commuism than land of the free. There was no reason for this ban. Since taking away my favorite smokes , I have tried dozens of different ones - from Singaore and Ukraine - not at all like my cloves. What will be next? I'm really afraid to ask , seems like it's only going to get worse.