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Death Determination Without Autopsy

Death Determination Without Autopsy

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When did cancer become a Natural Cause for the death of a child or young adult?  Why do only one percent of our loved ones in Nursing Homes receive autopsy?  Why does the government only autopsy "active duty" military?

We have diseases and pandemics entering into the United States via Immigrants and airborn particles.  We NEED to know why.  We need to know why it took 50 years for our Government to determine that Viet Nam Vets has a parasite eating away at them, and how infectious was that parasite?

This is the Age of Forensics.  We need to work, we need to follow the path of Pathology and Forensics.  We need to save America FIRST.

America wasn't paying attention to the rate of Suicide among Veterans after Vietnam. As a matter of fact, the only time we did begin to pay attention to it was during Dessert Storm. Even then, the suicides of "non active" Military Personnel went unaccounted for. That is still as it stands today.
 
In 1999, the Harvard Injury Control Center launched the National Violent Injury Statistics System (NVISS) to support local efforts to gather data.
 
In 2000, the Centers for Disease Control started planning for the implementation of the National Violent Death Reporting System (NVDRS) (7).
 
In 2002, Congress appropriated funds for the development of this system. NVDRS was conceived as a state-based active surveillance system that collects risk factor data concerning all violence-related deaths, including homicides, suicides, unintentional deaths caused by firearms, legal intervention deaths (i.e., deaths caused by police and other persons with legal authority to use deadly force), and deaths of undetermined intent. NVDRS data are used to assist the development, implementation, and evaluation of programs and policies designed to reduce and prevent violent deaths and injuries at the national, state, and local levels.
 
NVDRS began operation in 2003 with seven states (Alaska, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, Oregon, South Carolina, and Virginia) participating; six states (Colorado, Georgia, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Rhode Island, and Wisconsin) joined in 2004 and four more (California, Kentucky, New Mexico, and Utah) in 2005, for a total of 17 states (
Figure). Funding for state participation is provided by CDC. CDC anticipates that NVDRS will expand to include all 50 states, the District of Columbia, and U.S. territories.
 


http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RL34471.pdf


Numerous news stories in the popular print and electronic media have documented suicides among servicemembers and veterans returning from Operation Iraqi Freedom (OIF) and Operation Enduring Freedom (OEF). In the United States, there are more than 30,000 suicides annually. Suicides among veterans are included in this number, but it is not known in what proportion. There is no nationwide system for surveillance of suicide specifically among veterans. Recent data show that about 20% of suicide deaths nationwide could be among veterans. It is not known what proportion of these deaths are among OIF/OEF veterans.

Veterans have a number of risk factors that increase their chance of attempting suicide. These risk factors include combat exposure, post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) and other mental health problems, traumatic brain injury (TBI), poor social support structures, and access to lethal means.


Several bills addressing suicide in veterans have been introduced in the 110th Congress. On November 5, 2007, the Joshua Omvig Veterans Suicide Prevention Act (P.L. 110-110) was signed into law, requiring the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) to establish a comprehensive program for suicide prevention among veterans. More recently, the Veterans Suicide Study Act (S. 2899) was introduced. This bill would require the VA to conduct a study, and report to Congress, regarding suicides among veterans since 1997.



Still, the only reports being noted are those of the suicide deaths of "Active" Military Personnel. The numbers reported to the VA, are incorrect.
 
More and more we are discovering that, often, the bodies of the Military Suicides, go without autopsy. These Soldiers, who fought bravely in the very bowels of hell, are not afforded autopsy. Investigators, unaware that these men and women are worth a half a million dollars DEAD, suicide or not, for up to a year after they are "non active", investigate the scene with the mindset that these individuals killed themselves.
 
The STIGMA associated with being a Soldier immediately places these deceased individuals in "PTSD" status, and their deaths are treated as such.  The requirements for "Coroner" differ from County to County.   A Coroner should have at least one year of Formal Education in the Medical and Crime Scene Investigation fields.  This requirement or more should be Nationwide.  Mandatory.
 
The "Brian P Shaver Act", which will be presented, hopefully, by 2009, will require mandatory autopsy on ALL suicide deaths of Military Personnel. It will require that the deaths of "Non Active" Military be included in the National Violent Death Reporting System.

It will also require the deaths of those Military under the care of the Veteran's Hospitals be investigated, the remains autopsied, because our Soldiers are dying due to the treatment they are recieving, the Medications they are given.

 
Mandatory Autopsy Law, the website that I began in honor of my son, has a Motto that speaks clearly:
 

"Making the words "Suicide" and "Veteran" synonymous
              creates the perfect blueprint for Murder".


My intent, when I began working on the website, was simply to work towards making autopsy, and proper death scene investigation for all Military suicides, law. Since then, I have spoken with so many different people and organizations who have been helpful in providing me with information that brought to light the need for mandatory autopsy laws for everyone.


As unpopular as mandatory autopsy would seem to be, this concern for the health of the human population is worldwide. I have received communications from organizations all over the world concerning this, as the word "Pandemic" has spread far and wide.


It was just recently discovered that Nam Vets have been dying from an intestinal Parasite they contracted in Nam, and brought back to the United States, that went undetected for about 50 years. The one thing that we all heard about the most was "Exposure to Agent Orange". No one ever said the words "Parasitic Invasion".


Needless to say, Mandatory Autopsy Law will be addressing these issues. We will work with other organizations, Scientists, Forensic Pathologist, and others in the field of medicine to bring to light the deadly invasions we face today, and will face in the future.


If we, as a Human race, do not act now, we face plagues and Pandemics that will unequal those of the past.


We have the technology. It's about time we began using it.


Do some studying.  Do your research, then sign here if you want to see REAL "change".
When did cancer become a Natural Cause for the death of a child or young adult?  Why do only one percent of our loved ones in Nursing Homes receive autopsy?  Why does the government only autopsy "active duty" military?

We have diseases and pandemics entering into the United States via Immigrants and airborn particles.  We NEED to know why.  We need to know why it took 50 years for our Government to determine that Viet Nam Vets has a parasite eating away at them, and how infectious was that parasite?

This is the Age of Forensics.  We need to work, we need to follow the path of Pathology and Forensics.  We need to save America FIRST.

America wasn't paying attention to the rate of Suicide among Veterans after Vietnam. As a matter of fact, the only time we did begin to pay attention to it was during Dessert Storm. Even then, the suicides of "non active" Military Personnel went unaccounted for. That is still as it stands today.
 
In 1999, the Harvard Injury Control Center launched the National Violent Injury Statistics System (NVISS) to support local efforts to gather data.
 
In 2000, the Centers for Disease Control started planning for the implementation of the National Violent Death Reporting System (NVDRS) (7).
 
In 2002, Congress appropriated funds for the development of this system. NVDRS was conceived as a state-based active surveillance system that collects risk factor data concerning all violence-related deaths, including homicides, suicides, unintentional deaths caused by firearms, legal intervention deaths (i.e., deaths caused by police and other persons with legal authority to use deadly force), and deaths of undetermined intent. NVDRS data are used to assist the development, implementation, and evaluation of programs and policies designed to reduce and prevent violent deaths and injuries at the national, state, and local levels.
 
NVDRS began operation in 2003 with seven states (Alaska, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, Oregon, South Carolina, and Virginia) participating; six states (Colorado, Georgia, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Rhode Island, and Wisconsin) joined in 2004 and four more (California, Kentucky, New Mexico, and Utah) in 2005, for a total of 17 states (
Figure). Funding for state participation is provided by CDC. CDC anticipates that NVDRS will expand to include all 50 states, the District of Columbia, and U.S. territories.
 


http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RL34471.pdf


Numerous news stories in the popular print and electronic media have documented suicides among servicemembers and veterans returning from Operation Iraqi Freedom (OIF) and Operation Enduring Freedom (OEF). In the United States, there are more than 30,000 suicides annually. Suicides among veterans are included in this number, but it is not known in what proportion. There is no nationwide system for surveillance of suicide specifically among veterans. Recent data show that about 20% of suicide deaths nationwide could be among veterans. It is not known what proportion of these deaths are among OIF/OEF veterans.

Veterans have a number of risk factors that increase their chance of attempting suicide. These risk factors include combat exposure, post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) and other mental health problems, traumatic brain injury (TBI), poor social support structures, and access to lethal means.


Several bills addressing suicide in veterans have been introduced in the 110th Congress. On November 5, 2007, the Joshua Omvig Veterans Suicide Prevention Act (P.L. 110-110) was signed into law, requiring the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) to establish a comprehensive program for suicide prevention among veterans. More recently, the Veterans Suicide Study Act (S. 2899) was introduced. This bill would require the VA to conduct a study, and report to Congress, regarding suicides among veterans since 1997.



Still, the only reports being noted are those of the suicide deaths of "Active" Military Personnel. The numbers reported to the VA, are incorrect.
 
More and more we are discovering that, often, the bodies of the Military Suicides, go without autopsy. These Soldiers, who fought bravely in the very bowels of hell, are not afforded autopsy. Investigators, unaware that these men and women are worth a half a million dollars DEAD, suicide or not, for up to a year after they are "non active", investigate the scene with the mindset that these individuals killed themselves.
 
The STIGMA associated with being a Soldier immediately places these deceased individuals in "PTSD" status, and their deaths are treated as such.  The requirements for "Coroner" differ from County to County.   A Coroner should have at least one year of Formal Education in the Medical and Crime Scene Investigation fields.  This requirement or more should be Nationwide.  Mandatory.
 
The "Brian P Shaver Act", which will be presented, hopefully, by 2009, will require mandatory autopsy on ALL suicide deaths of Military Personnel. It will require that the deaths of "Non Active" Military be included in the National Violent Death Reporting System.

It will also require the deaths of those Military under the care of the Veteran's Hospitals be investigated, the remains autopsied, because our Soldiers are dying due to the treatment they are recieving, the Medications they are given.

 
Mandatory Autopsy Law, the website that I began in honor of my son, has a Motto that speaks clearly:
 

"Making the words "Suicide" and "Veteran" synonymous
              creates the perfect blueprint for Murder".


My intent, when I began working on the website, was simply to work towards making autopsy, and proper death scene investigation for all Military suicides, law. Since then, I have spoken with so many different people and organizations who have been helpful in providing me with information that brought to light the need for mandatory autopsy laws for everyone.


As unpopular as mandatory autopsy would seem to be, this concern for the health of the human population is worldwide. I have received communications from organizations all over the world concerning this, as the word "Pandemic" has spread far and wide.


It was just recently discovered that Nam Vets have been dying from an intestinal Parasite they contracted in Nam, and brought back to the United States, that went undetected for about 50 years. The one thing that we all heard about the most was "Exposure to Agent Orange". No one ever said the words "Parasitic Invasion".


Needless to say, Mandatory Autopsy Law will be addressing these issues. We will work with other organizations, Scientists, Forensic Pathologist, and others in the field of medicine to bring to light the deadly invasions we face today, and will face in the future.


If we, as a Human race, do not act now, we face plagues and Pandemics that will unequal those of the past.


We have the technology. It's about time we began using it.


Do some studying.  Do your research, then sign here if you want to see REAL "change".
Thank you for taking the time to read and sign our Petition.  It is an honor to us.

Please visit http://www.mandatoryautopsylaw.com for updates.

Pamela Smith - A Soldiers Mom
http://www.brianpshaver.com
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# 73:
10:22 am PST, Nov 17, KAthy McGee, Alabama
Recently a friend died and the coroner did no autopsy. He died at home.However his estranged wife (8mths seperated) at been at his house for 4 days. He had told almost everyone he was afraid of her and that she was going to kill him for his insurance money.He weighed 65 lbs at time of death so she very well could have.3hrs after he died she started to clean out his house and took his new truck. He had bled out his entire amount of blood and body fluids. Still the coroner did not request an autopsy. Am I the only one who sees a problem with this picture?
# 72:
10:01 pm PST, Nov 16, Name not displayed, Alabama
# 71:
9:58 pm PST, Nov 16, Name not displayed, Alabama
I love you Ms. Pam ......... one day all your questions will be answered
# 70:
7:33 pm PST, Nov 3, Margaret Brisbane, Indiana
# 69:
3:56 pm PDT, Oct 17, Carla Seymour, Oklahoma
# 68:
12:54 am PDT, Sep 27, Carlos Bailon, California
# 67:
7:30 am PDT, Sep 1, Roxanne Voit, Wisconsin
# 66:
6:00 am PDT, Sep 1, Linda Lightfoot, Kentucky
# 65:
1:54 pm PDT, Aug 26, Alicia Villasenor, California
# 64:
3:13 pm PDT, Aug 12, Nickolas Pitt, Alaska
In order to maintain accountability, ease families minds, and improve care for others.
# 63:
4:06 pm PDT, Aug 11, Sandy Bonesteel, Texas
It only makes sense to perform an autopsy for every death. Guessing at a cause of death is just wrong.
# 62:
4:21 pm PDT, Aug 3, Pamela Fleites, California
I think everyone who dies should have an Autopsy, to make sure that when the Doctor's say they died of this what ever it may be. We really know that's what they died of. A paper trail is the best way to determine that. It protects the patients rights & the doctors from law suites!!!!
# 61:
6:17 am PDT, Jul 31, June Delov, Oklahoma
For the sake of all...
# 60:
1:21 pm PDT, Jul 29, Carl Rosenstock, Wisconsin
# 59:
7:39 pm PDT, Jun 30, Renee Naden, New Jersey
# 58:
5:47 am PDT, May 28, Angelicque Mcqueen, California
My aunt Kimberly D. Smith Hodges... alive and well at 6:05 pm Oct 16 2008. Kimberly D Smith Hodges (Husband gave Five different versions of what happened) All I know she was dead soon after... Time? Coroner said "Sometime during the show Survivor was on". Coroner ruled massive heart attack... I was being close as a daughter to Kim, am forced to live with the fact that an autopsy was not done. Why? Husband "Didn't want her cut up". This was said by the same husband who I witnessed beat on my aunt for years... First time I was only 9 she was 19 Husband was 15 years older than my aunt... My aunt begged me not to tell. She said "Angie, if anyone knew what was going on out here, they would not allow you to come and see me" Well, that was nothing more than a log book in my mind... 7 years I knew of husbands abuse. Serious abuse. Kicking her till she was not moving I threw myself on top of her, turned my head around and just waited for the blow of his boot to kick me instead... He did not. He shook his head as if to snap out of one personality and back into another... As I arrived in Indiana for my aunt’s funeral I begged my grandfather to demand autopsy... Everyone loved her husband and he got away with murder.... So many facts overlooked... An autopsy would have provided closure one way or the other... The problem I have is the Coroner ignored all this information as well... The Coroner Joe Todd of Connersville IN even broke his code of ethics by actually calling husband and telling him all I had to say... Of course Husband is a psychopath however I believe Coroner took pay off for the murder... 2 life insurance policies... Investments. Husband bought a classic mint condition Mercedes soon after... I will not speak to anyone in my family. My mother and I still wake up as if we are being choked unable to breathe... Indiana allowed her psychotic husband to make the no autopsy choice. How do I live not knowing? Husband is around my family everyday... I and my two children will never again visit... Husband had 12 charges of child molestation All dropped as children never would testify against him... I was lucky my aunt never let that man alone with me for one second... I miss her and she always said "I can't live him; if I tried he would surly kill me". I think he finally did. Autopsy... YouTube aqueen200 aunt kims voice... My video on how something so easy as an autopsy could have given closure and allowed my kids a family this demon man took away from us... My aunt also never had children She said "He would hurt them". Indiana is the place to live if you want to collect on your wife’s life. That’s for sure. Funeral was clear Bruises on her face, neck, chest... Even her nails were done up in a way my aunt would have hated. Heart attack with out anyone in my family ever having heart disease. I’m with ya 100 % Angelicque Mcqueen. auntkimsvoice.
# 57:
8:51 pm PDT, May 27, Christopher Harrison, Hawaii
Christopher Harrison
# 56:
9:40 pm PDT, May 16, Chad McCrory, Georgia
# 55:
9:32 am PDT, May 16, Cheryl Gross, West Virginia
This is not fair to these Soldiers... They should have all the right the ones left behind to say what should or should not be done for their Hero ... Not the military... THE FAMILIES OF THE FALLEN HERO SHOULD........
# 54:
8:51 pm PDT, May 15, Jane Kermani, Texas
Parents deserve to know what happened to their child. The only way they can ever feel any peace is to have answers. Please give those parents peace.
# 53:
4:54 pm PDT, May 15, Ruth Wright, Indiana
# 52:
4:08 pm PDT, May 15, Kelly Jolly, Pennsylvania
Please allow the death of SPC Brian Patrick be determined for his families sake and the sake of others. We know agent orange has been a past issue and so should this. Please allow this family some peace!
# 51:
1:53 pm PDT, May 15, Aldona Young_Carrington, United Kingdom
# 50:
1:44 pm PDT, May 15, Marie Howard, New Jersey
# 49:
1:31 pm PDT, May 15, Leonard Wahl, New York
Our soldiers serve his or her community, county, state and COUNTRY. When the fallen soldiers families have question about the death of his or her son and or daughter. An the spouse of a fallen soldier. The fallen soldiers families deserve's answers. Even if the military branch disagree's. An if the fallen families ask for a personal autopsy. It should be granted. Father of fallen soldier US Army Sgt. Gregory L. Wahl KIA Balad, Iraq 05-03-04. His fallen brother US Army Brian Patrick Shaver family deserves answers. An the autopsy would provide the answer. An it may agree with the Army and not, so be it. Brian deserves his family resolve to have the truth in; whatever manner the autopsy comes too.
# 48:
12:46 pm PDT, May 15, Name not displayed, New York
# 47:
6:56 pm PDT, Apr 23, Sarah Quan, Virginia
I don't understand why an autopsy was not done on this man when there were marks on him not caused by hanging.
# 46:
6:28 am PDT, Apr 23, Tammy Mason, Virginia
Why if the next of kin request an autopsy is it not performed. In the civilian world this is a must!!!! Let her have her piece and justice!!!!!!!
# 45:
12:09 am PDT, Apr 2, Ari R. Kolman, Canada
Absolutely Of course and Now Please..
# 44:
9:11 pm PDT, Mar 29, Barbara Best, Virginia
I truely feel that if a close family member (the next of kin) requests an autopsy, it should be automaticly performed.
# 43:
9:37 pm PDT, Mar 26, Paula Purvis, Arkansas
# 42:
11:22 am PDT, Mar 25, Claudia Tapia Guerrero, Mexico
Justice!
# 41:
9:58 am PDT, Mar 25, Shelley Martin, Alabama
The truth needs to be brought out!!!
# 40:
2:39 pm PDT, Mar 16, Jason Cotcher, California
# 39:
11:22 pm PDT, Mar 15, Catherine Higley, Alaska
# 38:
10:46 pm PDT, Mar 15, Laura Swindle, Oklahoma
JUSTICE
# 37:
12:28 pm PDT, Mar 14, Jennifer Beasley, New York
I AGREE!! i was thinking the same thing what if the person died of something serious and the doctors dont even bother to check? what if it was a disease that is spreading across the world AUTOPSY EVERYONE EQUALLY!!
# 36:
10:02 pm PDT, Mar 12, Kimberly Tilley, Idaho
# 35:
9:30 pm PDT, Mar 11, Elaine Hayes, Kansas
# 34:
7:53 pm PDT, Mar 11, Jerry Hensley, Tennessee
# 33:
7:17 am PDT, Mar 11, Jennifer Gardner, Florida
# 32:
1:59 pm PDT, Mar 10, Name not displayed, Washington
Signing in honor of an amazing man who left us too soon.
# 31:
12:53 pm PDT, Mar 10, Valorie McCormick, Texas
I have 2 sons in the Military. One is Active Duty (deployed), and the other one is in the Reserves. I would want to know that they were taken care of. Thank you for getting involved.
# 30:
5:51 am PDT, Mar 8, Name not displayed, Pennsylvania
# 28:
8:09 pm PST, Mar 6, Isabel Christophersen, California
# 27:
6:23 am PST, Mar 6, Name not displayed, Florida
# 26:
2:06 pm PST, Mar 4, Marie Nelson, Indiana
# 24:
8:22 pm PST, Mar 3, Brenda Freeman, Alabama
Autopsy should be MANDATORY. It will eliminate questions about cause of death, and leave no stone unturned.
# 23:
4:59 pm PST, Mar 3, Meagan Pierson, Louisiana
The cause of the end of any life needs to be investigated. Not only may it prevent epidemics, many doctors today are lazy and money hungry and fail to diagnose many health problems in their patients, because the are too "busy." I thought people became doctors to save lives. Guess I was wrong. It's all about the Benjamins.
# 22:
9:31 am PST, Mar 3, Kevin Hunter, New York
# 21:
4:35 am PST, Mar 3, Melissa Peterson, Georgia
There are so many reasons an autopsy could be important and they should be routine.
# 20:
12:55 am PST, Mar 3, Leif Englund, Sweden
Use the military cost to go to Forensics and research to help the humans for humanity sake.
# 19:
9:48 pm PST, Mar 2, Miles Cole, Ohio
# 18:
5:55 pm PST, Mar 2, Jo Lynn Truitt Michigan, Michigan
# 17:
5:07 pm PST, Mar 2, Jane Hunter, New York
# 16:
5:06 pm PST, Mar 2, Margaret Hunter, New York
# 15:
4:43 pm PST, Mar 2, Marian Reed, New Jersey
Thirty years ago, AIDS was never heard of, you cannot make an accurate diagnosis w/o full disclosure of all information. Autopsy should be mandated unless requested not to do so by the family of the decedent.
# 14:
4:31 pm PST, Mar 2, Rachel Wiard, Michigan
# 13:
4:03 pm PST, Mar 2, Candie Glisson, North Dakota
Signing this in honor and for Spc Brian P. Shaver
# 12:
7:40 am PST, Mar 2, Clara Powers, Ohio
A qualified coronor should be responsible for seeing that an autopsy be performed in ALL cases of suspected suicide and any other deaths which seem unusual or when the cause of death is simply "suspected".
# 11:
7:03 am PST, Mar 2, Robin Juanita Machado, California
# 10:
6:17 am PST, Mar 2, Pamela Smith, Alabama
# 9:
2:04 pm PST, Mar 1, Glory Miller, South Carolina
# 8:
1:25 am PST, Mar 1, Panagiotis Rigopoulos, Greece
# 7:
5:36 pm PST, Feb 28, Kristina Salgado, Arkansas
# 6:
3:29 pm PST, Feb 28, Steve Dale, Australia
# 5:
7:40 am PST, Feb 28, Name not displayed, New York
# 4:
3:23 am PST, Feb 28, Steve Klein, Canada
# 3:
12:32 am PST, Feb 28, Lynda Harding, United Kingdom
# 2:
10:48 pm PST, Feb 27, Pam Boland, Georgia
# 1:
2:40 pm PST, Feb 27, Mieke Bernaards, Belgium
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