Death Determination Without Autopsy
We have diseases and pandemics entering into the United States via Immigrants and airborn particles. We NEED to know why. We need to know why it took 50 years for our Government to determine that Viet Nam Vets has a parasite eating away at them, and how infectious was that parasite?
This is the Age of Forensics. We need to work, we need to follow the path of Pathology and Forensics. We need to save America FIRST.
America wasn't paying attention to the rate of Suicide among Veterans after Vietnam. As a matter of fact, the only time we did begin to pay attention to it was during Dessert Storm. Even then, the suicides of "non active" Military Personnel went unaccounted for. That is still as it stands today.
In 1999, the Harvard Injury Control Center launched the National Violent Injury Statistics System (NVISS) to support local efforts to gather data.
In 2000, the Centers for Disease Control started planning for the implementation of the National Violent Death Reporting System (NVDRS) (7).
In 2002, Congress appropriated funds for the development of this system. NVDRS was conceived as a state-based active surveillance system that collects risk factor data concerning all violence-related deaths, including homicides, suicides, unintentional deaths caused by firearms, legal intervention deaths (i.e., deaths caused by police and other persons with legal authority to use deadly force), and deaths of undetermined intent. NVDRS data are used to assist the development, implementation, and evaluation of programs and policies designed to reduce and prevent violent deaths and injuries at the national, state, and local levels.
NVDRS began operation in 2003 with seven states (Alaska, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, Oregon, South Carolina, and Virginia) participating; six states (Colorado, Georgia, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Rhode Island, and Wisconsin) joined in 2004 and four more (California, Kentucky, New Mexico, and Utah) in 2005, for a total of 17 states (Figure). Funding for state participation is provided by CDC. CDC anticipates that NVDRS will expand to include all 50 states, the District of Columbia, and U.S. territories.
http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RL34471.pdf
Numerous news stories in the popular print and electronic media have documented suicides among servicemembers and veterans returning from Operation Iraqi Freedom (OIF) and Operation Enduring Freedom (OEF). In the United States, there are more than 30,000 suicides annually. Suicides among veterans are included in this number, but it is not known in what proportion. There is no nationwide system for surveillance of suicide specifically among veterans. Recent data show that about 20% of suicide deaths nationwide could be among veterans. It is not known what proportion of these deaths are among OIF/OEF veterans.
Veterans have a number of risk factors that increase their chance of attempting suicide. These risk factors include combat exposure, post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) and other mental health problems, traumatic brain injury (TBI), poor social support structures, and access to lethal means.
Several bills addressing suicide in veterans have been introduced in the 110th Congress. On November 5, 2007, the Joshua Omvig Veterans Suicide Prevention Act (P.L. 110-110) was signed into law, requiring the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) to establish a comprehensive program for suicide prevention among veterans. More recently, the Veterans Suicide Study Act (S. 2899) was introduced. This bill would require the VA to conduct a study, and report to Congress, regarding suicides among veterans since 1997.
Still, the only reports being noted are those of the suicide deaths of "Active" Military Personnel. The numbers reported to the VA, are incorrect.
More and more we are discovering that, often, the bodies of the Military Suicides, go without autopsy. These Soldiers, who fought bravely in the very bowels of hell, are not afforded autopsy. Investigators, unaware that these men and women are worth a half a million dollars DEAD, suicide or not, for up to a year after they are "non active", investigate the scene with the mindset that these individuals killed themselves.
The STIGMA associated with being a Soldier immediately places these deceased individuals in "PTSD" status, and their deaths are treated as such. The requirements for "Coroner" differ from County to County. A Coroner should have at least one year of Formal Education in the Medical and Crime Scene Investigation fields. This requirement or more should be Nationwide. Mandatory.
The "Brian P Shaver Act", which will be presented, hopefully, by 2009, will require mandatory autopsy on ALL suicide deaths of Military Personnel. It will require that the deaths of "Non Active" Military be included in the National Violent Death Reporting System.
It will also require the deaths of those Military under the care of the Veteran's Hospitals be investigated, the remains autopsied, because our Soldiers are dying due to the treatment they are recieving, the Medications they are given.
Mandatory Autopsy Law, the website that I began in honor of my son, has a Motto that speaks clearly:
"Making the words "Suicide" and "Veteran" synonymous
creates the perfect blueprint for Murder".
My intent, when I began working on the website, was simply to work towards making autopsy, and proper death scene investigation for all Military suicides, law. Since then, I have spoken with so many different people and organizations who have been helpful in providing me with information that brought to light the need for mandatory autopsy laws for everyone.
As unpopular as mandatory autopsy would seem to be, this concern for the health of the human population is worldwide. I have received communications from organizations all over the world concerning this, as the word "Pandemic" has spread far and wide.
It was just recently discovered that Nam Vets have been dying from an intestinal Parasite they contracted in Nam, and brought back to the United States, that went undetected for about 50 years. The one thing that we all heard about the most was "Exposure to Agent Orange". No one ever said the words "Parasitic Invasion".
Needless to say, Mandatory Autopsy Law will be addressing these issues. We will work with other organizations, Scientists, Forensic Pathologist, and others in the field of medicine to bring to light the deadly invasions we face today, and will face in the future.
If we, as a Human race, do not act now, we face plagues and Pandemics that will unequal those of the past.
We have the technology. It's about time we began using it.
Do some studying. Do your research, then sign here if you want to see REAL "change".
We have diseases and pandemics entering into the United States via Immigrants and airborn particles. We NEED to know why. We need to know why it took 50 years for our Government to determine that Viet Nam Vets has a parasite eating away at them, and how infectious was that parasite?
This is the Age of Forensics. We need to work, we need to follow the path of Pathology and Forensics. We need to save America FIRST.
America wasn't paying attention to the rate of Suicide among Veterans after Vietnam. As a matter of fact, the only time we did begin to pay attention to it was during Dessert Storm. Even then, the suicides of "non active" Military Personnel went unaccounted for. That is still as it stands today.
In 1999, the Harvard Injury Control Center launched the National Violent Injury Statistics System (NVISS) to support local efforts to gather data.
In 2000, the Centers for Disease Control started planning for the implementation of the National Violent Death Reporting System (NVDRS) (7).
In 2002, Congress appropriated funds for the development of this system. NVDRS was conceived as a state-based active surveillance system that collects risk factor data concerning all violence-related deaths, including homicides, suicides, unintentional deaths caused by firearms, legal intervention deaths (i.e., deaths caused by police and other persons with legal authority to use deadly force), and deaths of undetermined intent. NVDRS data are used to assist the development, implementation, and evaluation of programs and policies designed to reduce and prevent violent deaths and injuries at the national, state, and local levels.
NVDRS began operation in 2003 with seven states (Alaska, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, Oregon, South Carolina, and Virginia) participating; six states (Colorado, Georgia, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Rhode Island, and Wisconsin) joined in 2004 and four more (California, Kentucky, New Mexico, and Utah) in 2005, for a total of 17 states (Figure). Funding for state participation is provided by CDC. CDC anticipates that NVDRS will expand to include all 50 states, the District of Columbia, and U.S. territories.
http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RL34471.pdf
Numerous news stories in the popular print and electronic media have documented suicides among servicemembers and veterans returning from Operation Iraqi Freedom (OIF) and Operation Enduring Freedom (OEF). In the United States, there are more than 30,000 suicides annually. Suicides among veterans are included in this number, but it is not known in what proportion. There is no nationwide system for surveillance of suicide specifically among veterans. Recent data show that about 20% of suicide deaths nationwide could be among veterans. It is not known what proportion of these deaths are among OIF/OEF veterans.
Veterans have a number of risk factors that increase their chance of attempting suicide. These risk factors include combat exposure, post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) and other mental health problems, traumatic brain injury (TBI), poor social support structures, and access to lethal means.
Several bills addressing suicide in veterans have been introduced in the 110th Congress. On November 5, 2007, the Joshua Omvig Veterans Suicide Prevention Act (P.L. 110-110) was signed into law, requiring the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) to establish a comprehensive program for suicide prevention among veterans. More recently, the Veterans Suicide Study Act (S. 2899) was introduced. This bill would require the VA to conduct a study, and report to Congress, regarding suicides among veterans since 1997.
Still, the only reports being noted are those of the suicide deaths of "Active" Military Personnel. The numbers reported to the VA, are incorrect.
More and more we are discovering that, often, the bodies of the Military Suicides, go without autopsy. These Soldiers, who fought bravely in the very bowels of hell, are not afforded autopsy. Investigators, unaware that these men and women are worth a half a million dollars DEAD, suicide or not, for up to a year after they are "non active", investigate the scene with the mindset that these individuals killed themselves.
The STIGMA associated with being a Soldier immediately places these deceased individuals in "PTSD" status, and their deaths are treated as such. The requirements for "Coroner" differ from County to County. A Coroner should have at least one year of Formal Education in the Medical and Crime Scene Investigation fields. This requirement or more should be Nationwide. Mandatory.
The "Brian P Shaver Act", which will be presented, hopefully, by 2009, will require mandatory autopsy on ALL suicide deaths of Military Personnel. It will require that the deaths of "Non Active" Military be included in the National Violent Death Reporting System.
It will also require the deaths of those Military under the care of the Veteran's Hospitals be investigated, the remains autopsied, because our Soldiers are dying due to the treatment they are recieving, the Medications they are given.
Mandatory Autopsy Law, the website that I began in honor of my son, has a Motto that speaks clearly:
"Making the words "Suicide" and "Veteran" synonymous
creates the perfect blueprint for Murder".
My intent, when I began working on the website, was simply to work towards making autopsy, and proper death scene investigation for all Military suicides, law. Since then, I have spoken with so many different people and organizations who have been helpful in providing me with information that brought to light the need for mandatory autopsy laws for everyone.
As unpopular as mandatory autopsy would seem to be, this concern for the health of the human population is worldwide. I have received communications from organizations all over the world concerning this, as the word "Pandemic" has spread far and wide.
It was just recently discovered that Nam Vets have been dying from an intestinal Parasite they contracted in Nam, and brought back to the United States, that went undetected for about 50 years. The one thing that we all heard about the most was "Exposure to Agent Orange". No one ever said the words "Parasitic Invasion".
Needless to say, Mandatory Autopsy Law will be addressing these issues. We will work with other organizations, Scientists, Forensic Pathologist, and others in the field of medicine to bring to light the deadly invasions we face today, and will face in the future.
If we, as a Human race, do not act now, we face plagues and Pandemics that will unequal those of the past.
We have the technology. It's about time we began using it.
Do some studying. Do your research, then sign here if you want to see REAL "change".
Please visit http://www.mandatoryautopsylaw.com for updates.
Pamela Smith - A Soldiers Mom
http://www.brianpshaver.com
Kathy Page from Colorado is my aunt and her son was my cousin but he was more to me than that, he was more like my son I stayed with them and helped to raise him and when he died it was loosing my own child. Something needs to be done about the medical examiner office and there incompentence. It was due to their negligence and the sheriff department incompentence that nothing was done to give the family or his case the attention and answers he should have received. They put on the death certificate suicide and refuse to change it even though we have proof it was not suicide.
My son was killed in 01/08. He died of a shotgun wound to the side of the head with no witnesses. There was no autopsy done, no toxicology except for alcohol yet the cops put on there report suspected using drugs. He had no alcohol in his system and if they thought he was on drugs why not test for it. He was a single parent raising his little 9 year old daughter alone. They lived 8 miles out in the country and she was alone in the house just a couple of hours before time to leave for school when this supposed suicide happened. Someone had been trying to break into his landlord's house that was just down the drive from his own home, while the landlord was out of state. He was asked to watch the landlord's home while he was gone. His body was between the 2 houses beside the driveway where he could be seen from his house. Just the night before he had told his grandmother he had to hurry home so his little girl would not be there alone after she got off the bus. That little girl was his life. His house and the landlord's was vandalized after his death but the cops tried to say he had done it even though he was dead and buried. They never fingerprinted the gun, they threw their latex gloves in his drive on there way out after picking up his body. They left an expended shell casing lying on the ground that was by his head. They even left the shell casing that was suppose to have been the fatal shot in the gun. I hired a private investigator who has worked on the case for 2 years. He took the expended shell out of the gun, he had the gun examined by a gun smith, the gun was 70 years old and would fire without warning and the private investigator even proved it was impossible for my son to have shot himself with that gun in the manner the ME investigator said he did. The gun was too long. They never interviewed anyone, no family members, family doctor, last people to see him alive, neighbors or even my little granddaughter. They never ask anyone not even one question, they just called it a suicide without any forensic proof. My son had never in his life been suicidal. And to make matters worse when the break ins started at the landlords was after a convicted burglar moved in 1/2 mile away as the crow flys 6 months before my son's death. The new neighbor had plea bargained down from 1st degree murder to 2nd degree burglary! They have put me and my family through hell and if they had of just did an autopsy maybe we would of had more answers. Maybe we would have known if it truely was a suicide or accident or maybe even a homicide. And I requested an autopsy only to be ignored, and that is what the ME's office has done for the last two years is to ignore my request even to speak to me, I have not talked to anyone in that office. This happened in Mayes County Oklahoma and the investigating agency was the Mayes county sheriffs office and ME investigator from Claremore OK Steve Massey.
my son sidney lanier died 9/27/2007 he was taken to the er where his drug addicted wife told the er doctor that sideny had taken a handful of methadone and bensos. they did no blood work no autopsy no nothing! sidney had a mark all the around his neck and a big bruise with a abrassion right in the middle of it there is no doubt the mark was made with a zip tie yet the ignorant law and the doctor will do nothing because now they say there is no evidence although i have pictures and one of the men the wife was involved with has large zip ties in his home right now. as long as this kind of work goes on with the law and doctors it is just a license to murder.
If anything happened to my husband..god forbid!!!...i would want to know exactly what happened!
the goverenment promised to take care of our veterans. now stick to it!! freedom isnt free.
Death without autopsy is dark ages at best, if the technology is there then the answer must be found!
This is a great thing you are doing! Push on! (c: God Bless our military they are our heroes!
Thank you for your service to our country. It is greatly appreciated regardless of what you hear on the news. May God keep you and your buddies safe and in good spirits during your tour. Many people that I know our praying for all of you. Merry Christmas and always remember to bundle up with your vest, before going outside. I pray you return safely in the name of your God. Take care and we love you. Former FTB1SS E-6 SSBN Nuclear Missile Submarines. Email me if you can. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.
this should be done already-- it is a shame that we have to petition our own government to treat our soldiers and veterans with respect.
We need to do the right things here!
I pray that you pay attention to this. No one should have to wonder and know in their heart that all was not done to find to cause of a death of a loved one. I have seen and watched my friend hurting over this for far to long because something was not done as it should have been. Please see to it that another person does not have to endure what she has.
Give Brian An Autopsy.It Should Have Been Done A Long Time Ago.
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11:24 pm PST, Dec 20,
Justin Friday, Texas
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I suppot 100 % Signing in honor
You will always be in my heart....
Recently a friend died and the coroner did no autopsy. He died at home.However his estranged wife (8mths seperated) at been at his house for 4 days. He had told almost everyone he was afraid of her and that she was going to kill him for his insurance money.He weighed 65 lbs at time of death so she very well could have.3hrs after he died she started to clean out his house and took his new truck. He had bled out his entire amount of blood and body fluids. Still the coroner did not request an autopsy. Am I the only one who sees a problem with this picture?
I love you Ms. Pam ......... one day all your questions will be answered
In order to maintain accountability, ease families minds, and improve care for others.
It only makes sense to perform an autopsy for every death. Guessing at a cause of death is just wrong.
I think everyone who dies should have an Autopsy, to make sure that when the Doctor's say they died of this what ever it may be. We really know that's what they died of. A paper trail is the best way to determine that. It protects the patients rights & the doctors from law suites!!!!
For the sake of all...
My aunt Kimberly D. Smith Hodges... alive and well at 6:05 pm Oct 16 2008. Kimberly D Smith Hodges (Husband gave Five different versions of what happened) All I know she was dead soon after... Time? Coroner said "Sometime during the show Survivor was on". Coroner ruled massive heart attack... I was being close as a daughter to Kim, am forced to live with the fact that an autopsy was not done. Why? Husband "Didn't want her cut up". This was said by the same husband who I witnessed beat on my aunt for years... First time I was only 9 she was 19 Husband was 15 years older than my aunt... My aunt begged me not to tell. She said "Angie, if anyone knew what was going on out here, they would not allow you to come and see me" Well, that was nothing more than a log book in my mind... 7 years I knew of husbands abuse. Serious abuse. Kicking her till she was not moving I threw myself on top of her, turned my head around and just waited for the blow of his boot to kick me instead... He did not. He shook his head as if to snap out of one personality and back into another... As I arrived in Indiana for my aunt’s funeral I begged my grandfather to demand autopsy... Everyone loved her husband and he got away with murder.... So many facts overlooked... An autopsy would have provided closure one way or the other... The problem I have is the Coroner ignored all this information as well... The Coroner Joe Todd of Connersville IN even broke his code of ethics by actually calling husband and telling him all I had to say... Of course Husband is a psychopath however I believe Coroner took pay off for the murder... 2 life insurance policies... Investments. Husband bought a classic mint condition Mercedes soon after... I will not speak to anyone in my family. My mother and I still wake up as if we are being choked unable to breathe... Indiana allowed her psychotic husband to make the no autopsy choice. How do I live not knowing? Husband is around my family everyday... I and my two children will never again visit... Husband had 12 charges of child molestation All dropped as children never would testify against him... I was lucky my aunt never let that man alone with me for one second... I miss her and she always said "I can't live him; if I tried he would surly kill me". I think he finally did. Autopsy... YouTube aqueen200 aunt kims voice... My video on how something so easy as an autopsy could have given closure and allowed my kids a family this demon man took away from us... My aunt also never had children She said "He would hurt them". Indiana is the place to live if you want to collect on your wife’s life. That’s for sure. Funeral was clear Bruises on her face, neck, chest... Even her nails were done up in a way my aunt would have hated. Heart attack with out anyone in my family ever having heart disease. I’m with ya 100 % Angelicque Mcqueen. auntkimsvoice.
Christopher Harrison
This is not fair to these Soldiers... They should have all the right the ones left behind to say what should or should not be done for their Hero ... Not the military... THE FAMILIES OF THE FALLEN HERO SHOULD........
Parents deserve to know what happened to their child. The only way they can ever feel any peace is to have answers. Please give those parents peace.
Please allow the death of SPC Brian Patrick be determined for his families sake and the sake of others. We know agent orange has been a past issue and so should this. Please allow this family some peace!
