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Request a minimum 120 days comment period on TSA's GA proposal security.

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 Department of Homeland Security, Transportation Security Administration
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In a new proposal released October 30, 2008, the Department of Homeland Security, Transportation Security Administration (TSA) proposes to expand airline-style security measures to private operations of aircraft weighing more than 12,500 pounds in general aviation.


TSA already has mandated security programs for the air carrier and commercial operator segments of the aviation industry including scheduled passenger operations, private charters, public charters, and all-cargo operations in large aircraft through the twelve-five program, the partial program, and the private charter program. With limited exceptions, TSA has not required security programs for large aircraft in general aviation. Large GA aircraft are most often operated by corporate entities, and some large GA aircraft are operated by individuals.


Among the additional provisions in the proposal would be the requirements that operators assign a security director to oversee flight operations, obtain TSA approval for a security program addressing every operation of the aircraft, submit fingerprints of all flight-crew members, seek government approval of each passenger for each flight, and pay for a third party to audit compliance with the new rules, with results sent to the agency.


These new provision places a substantial and unwarranted financial burden on general aviation and also raises questions in the areas of interstate commerce, government authority, civil liberties, and Constitutional rights.


There is only a sixty day period during which the TSA is accepting comments from the public on the usefulness and appropriateness of its proposal. Proposals that incur such serious consequences need more than sixty days for public study and comment. Unless the current comment period is extended, it will expire on December 29, 2008.  Given the serious potential impact of this proposed change, this petition respectfully requests that the Transportation Security Administration allow a minimum of 120 days for the public and its representatives to properly respond to this proposed TSA legislation for non-commercial operations of aircraft above 12,500 lbs.

Note: In addition to signing this petition, please go to www.regulations.gov, use the docket number, TSA 2008 0021, and formally request a comment period of a minimum of 120 days.

In a new proposal released October 30, 2008, the Department of Homeland Security, Transportation Security Administration (TSA) proposes to expand airline-style security measures to private operations of aircraft weighing more than 12,500 pounds in general aviation.


TSA already has mandated security programs for the air carrier and commercial operator segments of the aviation industry including scheduled passenger operations, private charters, public charters, and all-cargo operations in large aircraft through the twelve-five program, the partial program, and the private charter program. With limited exceptions, TSA has not required security programs for large aircraft in general aviation. Large GA aircraft are most often operated by corporate entities, and some large GA aircraft are operated by individuals.


Among the additional provisions in the proposal would be the requirements that operators assign a security director to oversee flight operations, obtain TSA approval for a security program addressing every operation of the aircraft, submit fingerprints of all flight-crew members, seek government approval of each passenger for each flight, and pay for a third party to audit compliance with the new rules, with results sent to the agency.


These new provision places a substantial and unwarranted financial burden on general aviation and also raises questions in the areas of interstate commerce, government authority, civil liberties, and Constitutional rights.


There is only a sixty day period during which the TSA is accepting comments from the public on the usefulness and appropriateness of its proposal. Proposals that incur such serious consequences need more than sixty days for public study and comment. Unless the current comment period is extended, it will expire on December 29, 2008.  Given the serious potential impact of this proposed change, this petition respectfully requests that the Transportation Security Administration allow a minimum of 120 days for the public and its representatives to properly respond to this proposed TSA legislation for non-commercial operations of aircraft above 12,500 lbs.

Note: In addition to signing this petition, please go to www.regulations.gov, use the docket number, TSA 2008 0021, and formally request a comment period of a minimum of 120 days.

Docket Management Facility

U.S. Department of Transportation

1200 New Jersey Avenue, SE.

West Building Ground, Floor, Room W12-u2013140

Washington, DC
Please reference docket number, TSA 2008 0021. In the new proposal released October 30, 2008, the Department of Homeland Security, Transportation Security Administration (TSA) proposes to expand airline-style security measures to private (Part 91) operations of aircraft weighing more than 12,500 pounds in general aviation.


TSA already has mandated security programs for the air carrier and commercial operator segments of the aviation industry including scheduled passenger operations, private charters, public charters, and all-cargo operations in large aircraft through the twelve-five program, the partial program, and the private charter program. With limited exceptions, TSA has not required security programs for large aircraft in general aviation. Large GA aircraft are most often operated by corporate entities, and some large GA aircraft are operated by individuals.


Among the additional provisions in the proposal would be the requirements that operators assign a security director to oversee flight operations, obtain TSA approval for a security program addressing every operation of the aircraft, submit fingerprints of all flight-crew members, seek government approval of each passenger for each flight, and pay for a third party to audit compliance with the new rules, with results sent to the agency.


These new provision places a substantial and unwarranted financial burden on general aviation and also raises questions in the areas of interstate commerce, government authority, civil liberties, and Constitutional rights.

There is only a sixty day period during which the TSA is accepting comments from the public on the usefulness and appropriateness of its proposal. Proposals that incur such serious consequences need more than sixty days for public study and comment. Unless the current comment period is extended, it will expire on December 29, 2008.  Given the serious potential impact of this proposed change, we the undersigned respectfully request that the Transportation Security Administration allow a minimum of 120 days for the public and its representatives to properly respond to this proposed TSA legislation for non-commercial operations of aircraft above 12,500 lbs.
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5:43 pm PST, Nov 29, Jillyanne Michelle Cape, Missouri
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1:26 pm PST, Nov 28, Country Maron, Connecticut
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11:48 am PST, Nov 28, Peter Kovari, California
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11:48 am PST, Nov 28, Peter Kovari, California
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12:34 pm PST, Nov 27, Sean Clancy, California
Fear is the battle cry of a seditious governments incursion into our free lives. In the 1930s, the German people had become civilized and tamed, culturally obsessed with fine details in both science and society. Their image of a brave new society was what united them. They should be equal in all respects including intellect. It's easy to realize what a jerk-off Hitler was. Hitler looked good to the Germans, with the help of the media. He was TIME Magazine's Man-Of-The-Year in 38. The German people assumed they were safe from a tyranny. They lived in a Republic, after all, with strict laws regarding what the government could and more importantly could not do. Their leader was a devoutly religious man, and had sung with the choir in his youth. The reality was that the German people, as individuals, had lost their ability to see past their own station in life and looked favorably to a leader that would limit personal excess. The German government began a campaign of limiting freedoms and singled out those that had even the slightest advantage over the general population. It created a fear of personal achievement or the ability to stand out and excel. The German government preferred it that way, as a fearful people are easier to rule than a courageous one. The German people didn't wish to lose their self-image of courage. When confronted with a situation demanding individual courage, in the form of a government gone wrong, the German people simply pretended that the situation did not exist. In that simple self-deception set the ruin of an entire nation. I guess the old adage “History Repeats it Self” still rings true… We were a free nation…
# 89:
12:07 pm PST, Nov 22, Will Weatherbee, Florida
Really a silly regulation. One could take one passenger out and return with a different one. How would they handle that? It is enough of a burden to land at a specified airport and receive the grilling of a customs agent. They know who is who already and this manifest is only a way of preventing free travel!
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9:00 am PST, Nov 18, Kim Krause, Wisconsin
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7:47 am PST, Nov 17, Dalia Hettfield, California
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6:02 am PST, Nov 17, Jeff Bradberry, Minnesota
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12:18 am PST, Nov 17, BiLL Fowlie, Maine
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2:08 am PST, Nov 16, Dolores Pena-Davis, California
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8:17 pm PST, Nov 15, Roxie Schliesman, Wisconsin
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4:42 pm PST, Nov 13, Linda Fuhrman, Minnesota
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10:03 am PST, Nov 13, Harold Griffin, Louisiana
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8:20 am PST, Nov 13, Name not displayed, Minnesota
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11:20 pm PST, Nov 12, Petra Liverani, Australia
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7:01 pm PST, Nov 12, Dorothy Johnson, Australia
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6:19 pm PST, Nov 12, Lori Taft, Minnesota
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6:16 pm PST, Nov 12, Jeremy Taft, Minnesota
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5:43 pm PST, Nov 12, Catherine DeCenzo, Virginia
My father is an 85-year old, ex-POW who was an aviator in WWII. I respectfully request that the Transportation Security Administration allow a minimum of 120 days for the public and its representatives to be given time to respond to this proposed legislation for non-commercial operations of aircraft above 12,500 lbs. With the extra burden these outsourcing costs will cause, companies such as those who provide tours of WWII and other historic aircraft will flounder, and our children will never be able to participate in and relive the history that their grandparents fought so hard to protect.
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5:35 pm PST, Nov 12, Nicholas Hone, Idaho
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5:25 pm PST, Nov 12, Ron Thiessen, Minnesota
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4:29 pm PST, Nov 12, Tim Krause, Wisconsin
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3:34 pm PST, Nov 12, Name not displayed, Minnesota
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2:51 pm PST, Nov 12, Jason Erickson, Iowa
It is a well documented (unfortunately) fact that a rental truck can cause significantly more damage than a GA aircraft. As soon as they require me to give my fingerprints and a background check to rent a U-Haul truck I will be willing to do this. As that will never happen I see it as another way to get money out of the GA pilots pocket with more documentation and fees.
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12:45 pm PST, Nov 12, Allen J Gittens, United Kingdom
# 68:
12:20 pm PST, Nov 12, Name not displayed, Minnesota
Most of the steps proposed are already in place. We already have a no fly list, and extensive background checks on all flight crews. The pilots are responsible for their planes. The mechanics and all other support crews are scrutinized by their supervisors. There's no need for extra costs by an outside 3rd party audit and more oversight. The FAA and TSA already has tools at their disposal, they just need the proper people already in these positions to do what they were hired to do. This proposal indicates to me that those working these jobs can't handle what what was asked of them to begin with. True, there is a move to larger and smaller aircraft for business travel owned by "individuals", but the vast majority of all these aircraft still require compliance with regs that all aircraft has in place. They are acting like it's going to cause huge problems when it's not. A sly way to find out who, where, and when small companies are conducting business.. will I still be able to go to an Air Show without producing ID? Will the Oshkosh Air extravaganza be available for the general public anymore? Gosh, I'll have to submit fingerprints if I want to pay $400 for a ride in a B-24. What's next?
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10:50 am PST, Nov 12, Donald Warneke, Minnesota
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10:09 am PST, Nov 12, Julie Taft, Colorado
# 65:
9:34 am PST, Nov 12, Jeffrey Soules, Texas
We need to extend the time for people to have a chance to put thought in to this.
# 64:
7:53 am PST, Nov 12, Richard Dolan, Minnesota
# 63:
7:42 am PST, Nov 12, Robert Scanlon, Minnesota
It may indeed be necessary; but, let us proceed in the manner that has made this country great. Security without maintaining the freedoms we have enjoyed, including an open government, is the equivalent to loosing the war on terror.
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7:39 am PST, Nov 12, Peter Higgins, Ireland
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7:16 am PST, Nov 12, Tim Kern, Indiana
I have also written my governor and state representative about how this will impact corporate aviation, from big biz-jets to the owner-operator who commutes from plant to plant in the state, as well as what it will do toward closing dozens of airports across the state.
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8:44 pm PST, Nov 11, C. Cassidy, Colorado
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7:50 pm PST, Nov 11, Daniel Streufert, Arizona
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5:34 pm PST, Nov 11, Louise Lanham, Texas
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5:22 pm PST, Nov 11, Pamela White, North Carolina
In addition to signing this petition, please go to www.regulations.gov, use the docket number, TSA 2008 0021, and formally request a comment period of a minimum of 120 days or put your request in writing to: Docket Management Facility U.S. Dep
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