So You Think You Can Capture Dance?
Target:
Changing the camera work on So You Think You Can Dance
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The camera work on So You Think You Can Dance does not allow the television audience to see the choreography as it's meant to be seen. The essence of dance is to see movement through space. If the subject is constantly in the center of the frame, you lose the perspective of the artform completely. Also, not being able to see the secondary dancers that are completing the stage picture takes away from the choreographer's vision. I've realized I'm not alone in this. Please sign the petition and hopefully we can alert the producers to the fact that the television public is missing out on such beautiful art.
The camera work on So You Think You Can Dance does not allow the television audience to see the choreography as it's meant to be seen. The essence of dance is to see movement through space. If the subject is constantly in the center of the frame, you lose the perspective of the artform completely. Also, not being able to see the secondary dancers that are completing the stage picture takes away from the choreographer's vision. I've realized I'm not alone in this. Please sign the petition and hopefully we can alert the producers to the fact that the television public is missing out on such beautiful art.
We the undersigned believe that dance should be captured to represent the choreographer's vision. Forcing the perspective in the camera work detracts from an artform that, in its essence, is about moving through space. The overall picture is not being represented. We in the television audience are missing out on the force behind the movement.
Thank you for your time and consideration in this matter.
Thank you for your time and consideration in this matter.
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# 61:
6:12 pm PDT, Aug 7,
BEE BOP, New York
The show is making wads of money get some decent camera people and the producer in the screening room shouting camera 1 , camera 3 etc . They always change their camera & angles at the wrong time. They should practice when the dancers are practicing and then watch their camera work back and see all the mistakes we see at home .
The show is making wads of money get some decent camera people and the producer in the screening room shouting camera 1 , camera 3 etc . They always change their camera & angles at the wrong time. They should practice when the dancers are practicing and then watch their camera work back and see all the mistakes we see at home .
# 60:
9:28 pm PDT, Aug 2,
Stephanie Kane, Canada
This is absolutely my favorite show of all time! Thank you Nigel. However, the camera work constantly drives me crazy. Mandy Moore's beautiful choreography of the top 6 dancers was visually ruined when we couldn't see even one complete movement. On the other hand, the routine with the door was excellent to watch because the camera HAD to stay still and we could enjoy it.
This is absolutely my favorite show of all time! Thank you Nigel. However, the camera work constantly drives me crazy. Mandy Moore's beautiful choreography of the top 6 dancers was visually ruined when we couldn't see even one complete movement. On the other hand, the routine with the door was excellent to watch because the camera HAD to stay still and we could enjoy it.
# 59:
9:21 am PDT, Jul 30,
Vidya Sims, California
# 58:
7:45 am PDT, Jul 28,
Karuna Venter, California
My husband and I complain to each other every single episode about the bad camera work on this show. We always feel like we miss half of each performance because the shows are shot so badly. Thank you Victoria for explaining so beautifully what the problem is, and I hope this petition alerts the producers to what they are missing on their show. The dancers are too good and work too hard to have half of what they do cut off for the TV audience.
My husband and I complain to each other every single episode about the bad camera work on this show. We always feel like we miss half of each performance because the shows are shot so badly. Thank you Victoria for explaining so beautifully what the problem is, and I hope this petition alerts the producers to what they are missing on their show. The dancers are too good and work too hard to have half of what they do cut off for the TV audience.
# 57:
12:11 pm PDT, Jul 27,
Lianne Hart, New York
# 56:
5:51 am PDT, Jul 26,
Trecia Neal, Georgia
Please allow us at least to see the whole body, and as much of the whole group as possible. Your camera work is very frustrating! We would like to experience it as much like if we were in the audience as possible! I realize this is a television show, and you want to make it exciting, but it is dance, and it is already exciting as it is. We want to see it all!
Please allow us at least to see the whole body, and as much of the whole group as possible. Your camera work is very frustrating! We would like to experience it as much like if we were in the audience as possible! I realize this is a television show, and you want to make it exciting, but it is dance, and it is already exciting as it is. We want to see it all!
# 55:
5:26 am PDT, Jul 26,
Jacob Jones, California
Definitely the cameramen just need to back up and let US decide where we want to look
Definitely the cameramen just need to back up and let US decide where we want to look
# 54:
10:17 pm PDT, Jul 25,
Denise Amos, Oklahoma
plz change camara wrk
plz change camara wrk
# 53:
3:42 pm PDT, Jul 24,
Caroline Kenny, New York
# 52:
8:35 am PDT, Jul 24,
Cara Salerno, Illinois
# 51:
7:33 am PDT, Jul 23,
Wayne DePew, Florida
Have watched the show from day one. If can see more,then more to see the better. My youngest son has been dancing for 20 years. Hope someday he will be there. And if so I like to see him in the best way.
Have watched the show from day one. If can see more,then more to see the better. My youngest son has been dancing for 20 years. Hope someday he will be there. And if so I like to see him in the best way.
# 50:
6:31 am PDT, Jul 23,
Nathaniel Hare, New York
This is the most crucial issue of our time. Except for that Iraq thing... and the economy. And the whole sub prime mess. And puppies, cause they are important and cute.
This is the most crucial issue of our time. Except for that Iraq thing... and the economy. And the whole sub prime mess. And puppies, cause they are important and cute.
# 49:
6:29 am PDT, Jul 23,
Maggie Cornyn, Indiana
# 48:
9:59 am PDT, Jul 22,
Susan Gaspar, Illinois
For ther love of all things holy---please use the camera to show the full effect of the dance as an art form. Remember Gene Kelly? He did that. That's why he became a legend in his own time.
For ther love of all things holy---please use the camera to show the full effect of the dance as an art form. Remember Gene Kelly? He did that. That's why he became a legend in his own time.
# 47:
7:26 am PDT, Jul 22,
Linda Waste, Illinois
Completely agree with this assessment. If they are going to film dance they should show full figures, not close ups.
Completely agree with this assessment. If they are going to film dance they should show full figures, not close ups.
# 46:
7:37 pm PDT, Jul 21,
Steve Waste, Illinois
Although I am not a viewer of the program in question, I agree with the aesthetics espoused in this petition. Let's the people see the dancers dance, damnit!
Although I am not a viewer of the program in question, I agree with the aesthetics espoused in this petition. Let's the people see the dancers dance, damnit!
# 45:
5:08 pm PDT, Jul 21,
Mary Marbach, Florida
Yeah. What they said.
Yeah. What they said.
# 44:
1:54 pm PDT, Jul 21,
Name not displayed, Idaho
The way they had the camera turning right to left while the dance was in motion almost made me sea sick. It needs to stop NOW!!
The way they had the camera turning right to left while the dance was in motion almost made me sea sick. It needs to stop NOW!!
# 43:
10:36 am PDT, Jul 21,
Paul Holmquist, Illinois
Believe in the expressive power of the whole body!
Believe in the expressive power of the whole body!
# 42:
8:16 am PDT, Jul 21,
Chantal Small, Canada
# 41:
5:35 am PDT, Jul 21,
Angel Ho, Pennsylvania
I can't express how many times I've been frustrated with flashy camera work. The performances themselves are able to grab my attention in a positive way, and the camera work only hinders that.
I can't express how many times I've been frustrated with flashy camera work. The performances themselves are able to grab my attention in a positive way, and the camera work only hinders that.
# 40:
7:28 pm PDT, Jul 20,
Annie Deschamps, Canada
Not only do you need to stop putting the dancers in the middle of the frame, but you need to stop the closups where we lose what their body is doing. It's a dance show. I know it's not fancy, but you need to put a sill camera in front of the stage and 2 more on each side to cut to if you have to and that's it. Please! You're killing us!
Not only do you need to stop putting the dancers in the middle of the frame, but you need to stop the closups where we lose what their body is doing. It's a dance show. I know it's not fancy, but you need to put a sill camera in front of the stage and 2 more on each side to cut to if you have to and that's it. Please! You're killing us!
# 39:
6:53 pm PDT, Jul 20,
David Benaym, New York
I couldn't agree more that the way some TV shows are filming their performance is way behind what technology and cameramen, directors skills are capable of giving us today. But more than the camera work itself, I believe that it is the way the choreographers think their work that needs to evolve. A routine supposedly made for TV should have only one audience in mind, the viewers at home, on the other side of the camera. Instead of being a filmed performance on any given stage, they should work hand to hand with the show's director, the crew, lighting director etc... When Wade Robson choreographed and danced his "clown/party" routine on Dancing with the Starts last year, this was a pure delight for us back home because it was created for and with the camera in mind. David Benaym Publisher and Editor in Chief movmnt magazine
I couldn't agree more that the way some TV shows are filming their performance is way behind what technology and cameramen, directors skills are capable of giving us today. But more than the camera work itself, I believe that it is the way the choreographers think their work that needs to evolve. A routine supposedly made for TV should have only one audience in mind, the viewers at home, on the other side of the camera. Instead of being a filmed performance on any given stage, they should work hand to hand with the show's director, the crew, lighting director etc... When Wade Robson choreographed and danced his "clown/party" routine on Dancing with the Starts last year, this was a pure delight for us back home because it was created for and with the camera in mind. David Benaym Publisher and Editor in Chief movmnt magazine
# 38:
5:47 pm PDT, Jul 20,
Gia Quilap, Virginia
I am an aspiring cinematographer, and these angle and camera work have been so horrid. Please please please, stick to just the dancers and their talents, don't try and spice it up or anything, because it isn't helping. Thank you!
I am an aspiring cinematographer, and these angle and camera work have been so horrid. Please please please, stick to just the dancers and their talents, don't try and spice it up or anything, because it isn't helping. Thank you!
# 37:
3:10 pm PDT, Jul 20,
Shaina Bush, Florida
# 36:
2:12 pm PDT, Jul 20,
Jane Heitz, California
# 35:
1:35 pm PDT, Jul 20,
Josh Horvath, Illinois
# 34:
11:54 am PDT, Jul 20,
Janet Frye-Stottmann, California
I've been watching So You Think You Can Dance since the beginning and the camera work seems to be getting progressively worse. Please save my show from becoming a mockery of itself and let us see the dancing as it was meant to be seen. Thank you.
I've been watching So You Think You Can Dance since the beginning and the camera work seems to be getting progressively worse. Please save my show from becoming a mockery of itself and let us see the dancing as it was meant to be seen. Thank you.
# 33:
11:30 am PDT, Jul 20,
Name not displayed, Florida
# 32:
8:16 am PDT, Jul 20,
Rebecca Bishop, Illinois
I received an archive copy of a dance production I worked on. The camera was so focused on the facial expressions of the "lead" dancers that the overall impact of almost every piece was ruined. Please keep the viewing angle over the entrie stage as the choreographer intends.
I received an archive copy of a dance production I worked on. The camera was so focused on the facial expressions of the "lead" dancers that the overall impact of almost every piece was ruined. Please keep the viewing angle over the entrie stage as the choreographer intends.
# 31:
2:57 pm PDT, Jul 19,
Name not displayed, United States Minor Outlying Islands
This is hilarious.
This is hilarious.
# 30:
9:31 am PDT, Jul 19,
Michael Motto, Illinois
Cuz your frends don't dance, and if they don't dance, then they're NO friends of mine....
Cuz your frends don't dance, and if they don't dance, then they're NO friends of mine....
# 29:
5:37 am PDT, Jul 19,
Benjamin, A De Iorio, New York
Producers, For the sake of your television audience, please consider our desire to enjoy the full compliment of your show. Many thanks, Ben De Iorio
Producers, For the sake of your television audience, please consider our desire to enjoy the full compliment of your show. Many thanks, Ben De Iorio
# 28:
4:19 am PDT, Jul 19,
Name not displayed, Germany
# 27:
2:05 am PDT, Jul 19,
Steve Klein, Canada
# 26:
6:34 pm PDT, Jul 18,
Camden Peterson, Illinois
# 25:
6:09 pm PDT, Jul 18,
Robert Redmon, Ohio
# 24:
5:26 pm PDT, Jul 18,
Beth Scheible, Illinois
# 23:
4:55 pm PDT, Jul 18,
Melissa Anderson, New York
PLEASE let us SEE the dancers and choreography! we miss so much! this show is a gift to the world of dance, if only we could actually experience it!
PLEASE let us SEE the dancers and choreography! we miss so much! this show is a gift to the world of dance, if only we could actually experience it!
# 22:
4:25 pm PDT, Jul 18,
Kelly Schumann, California
# 21:
4:24 pm PDT, Jul 18,
Name not displayed, New York
# 19:
1:00 pm PDT, Jul 18,
Jenni Fontana, California
I completely agree with this and we have been saying this ALL season! I think the dancers & choreography are much better than we are being able to see ... the cinematography may be bad, but it's also the editing of which shots are being chosen that is doing a HUGE disservice to the dancers and the show. Please change this so we can enjoy watching that much more!!
I completely agree with this and we have been saying this ALL season! I think the dancers & choreography are much better than we are being able to see ... the cinematography may be bad, but it's also the editing of which shots are being chosen that is doing a HUGE disservice to the dancers and the show. Please change this so we can enjoy watching that much more!!
# 18:
12:23 pm PDT, Jul 18,
Name not displayed, New York
# 17:
12:20 pm PDT, Jul 18,
Rita Vreeland, Illinois
# 16:
12:20 pm PDT, Jul 18,
Rita Vreeland, Illinois
# 15:
12:19 pm PDT, Jul 18,
Neda Spears, Illinois
Doing close-ups during a solo performance is fine, but not a group number. I know the producers are trying to "jazz it up" perhaps, but perhaps filming the piece from far away and putting it online might be an option.
Doing close-ups during a solo performance is fine, but not a group number. I know the producers are trying to "jazz it up" perhaps, but perhaps filming the piece from far away and putting it online might be an option.
# 14:
12:09 pm PDT, Jul 18,
Amber Bel'cher, Illinois
# 13:
11:50 am PDT, Jul 18,
Nedda Deiorio, New York
A choregraphed group dance is a work of many splendored things which creates the vision of the choreographer. The movements, the music , the lights and shadows, the costunes, the make-up, everything has to be seen as a whole. It has to be absorbed as it happens, with no time to indulge on particular close-ups.
A choregraphed group dance is a work of many splendored things which creates the vision of the choreographer. The movements, the music , the lights and shadows, the costunes, the make-up, everything has to be seen as a whole. It has to be absorbed as it happens, with no time to indulge on particular close-ups.
# 12:
11:41 am PDT, Jul 18,
David Peryam, California
Please stop fing up the show!
Please stop fing up the show!
# 11:
10:47 am PDT, Jul 18,
Mary Robbins, North Carolina
# 10:
10:03 am PDT, Jul 18,
Brian Kelsey, Wisconsin
Love the show...hate the camera angles as you focus on one dancer so much that you never see the other.
Love the show...hate the camera angles as you focus on one dancer so much that you never see the other.
# 9:
8:31 am PDT, Jul 18,
Name not displayed, Illinois
# 7:
6:31 am PDT, Jul 18,
Jamie Pachino, California
# 6:
6:27 am PDT, Jul 18,
Jennie Cleghorn, Illinois
I just want to see the beautiful dancing!
I just want to see the beautiful dancing!
# 5:
12:39 am PDT, Jul 18,
Angela Gomez, Ohio
# 4:
12:05 am PDT, Jul 18,
Ellen Willett, Illinois
Finally, someone is speaking out about the travesty of this camera work!
Finally, someone is speaking out about the travesty of this camera work!
# 3:
11:54 pm PDT, Jul 17,
David Dunkleberger, Pennsylvania
# 2:
11:30 pm PDT, Jul 17,
Lindsay Jones, California
Power to the people!
Power to the people!
# 1:
11:03 pm PDT, Jul 17,
Victoria DeIorio, Illinois
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