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The Kaylee Rain Law

Target:
Citizens to alleviate the pain sexually abused children are forced to endure
Please help us end an incest victims nightmare when the monster lives in her own home and comes into her bedroom at night.

To see Kaylee's story go to a website her Grandmother founded
www.momsforjustice.org

Please sign this petition and read the articles below

The Kaylee Rain Law would help children not have to endure sexual abuse.  Court Ordered sexual abuse is being enforced by our Family Courts because a child's complaints are not accepted in Family Courts as evidence.  Most people can't believe this happens in courts in America but I am here to show you it does.  Help stop this TODAY by Signing below:

It is imperative that this common occurence and fact is brought to light because most mothers are threatened to lose all custody and rights if they report "one more time" by Child Protection workers, judges, caseworkers, Friends of the Court, attorneys and even their own attorneys in some cases.  Help us end a child's nightmare which would require the judges to stop sweeping incest under the rug.

1) Mandatory supervised visitation with an onsite visitation center when accusations of sexual abuse comes up in custody and/or visitation cases.  Supervised visitation to remain onsite supervised until psychosexual testing is completed. 


2) Psychosexual evaluation for all parties from a doctor specializing in forensic psychology specifically sexual offender testing. 


3) Cases alleging child sexual abuse, all hearings and court appearances to be video taped as is done now in parts of Michigan.  With all parties given or purchasing a copy for cost.  If any party is indigent then will get 1 free copy.


4) Judges MUST allow all evidence from both parties to be heard and included. 


5) As an exception to Hearsay statements from a child under 13 years old to be admitted alleging sexual abuse.


6) At age 12 a child can make their own choice if they want to visit their parent and be able to testify to the judge.


7)  A child of any age can testify closed camera regarding allegations of sexual abuse.  Not in judges chambers


8) A person who is diagnosed as a pedophile can not seek off site visitation or custody


9) Registered Sex Offender not be able to have custody of small children 


10) Protective Parent Act written by Richard Ducote to be included into the Kaylee Rain Law.



What is Visitation?
by Michelle Etlin

(Journal of the Child Custody Task Group of the National Organization for Men Against Sexism vol. 4, 14 (1992).

     What are the dynamics of "visitation," the various degrees of "visitation," and "access" with respect to a child who has been molested? [I think the word "access" is more accurate, since it really does semantically imply the reality, that is, the adult has *access to the child,* much as if the child were a prostitute or a service-provider or a piece of property to which that adult has rights.] It is commonly assumed that a child *must* visit her father, even if he has molested her, perhaps with some safeguard in place (for a brief time, at least) to prevent him from molesting her again.

     What happens in our courts in the general case of a father accused of sexual abuse of his own biological or legal offspring? First, perpetrators are routinely advised by their lawyers to immediately sue for custody of the child when an accusation is made, so they can cast the problem as a "false allegation made to gain advantage in a custody dispute." The only reason this did not work for H was that he was the step-father, not the biological father, of D, so he couldn't sue for custody. Still, it was essential for his strategy that he not only act as if his victim was his own child, but as if the accusation was precipitated by divorce. Most important, he had to visit the victim, for two reasons: one, he could make contact with D to intimidate her so she would recant her allegation; and two, as long as he acted like a father and the mother wanted to prevent him from visiting, the allegations could be blamed on the mother (part of a custody/visitation battle) and denied.

     At any point between revelation of the abuse and the final outcome of all court proceedings, visitation between a child and her named molester is almost a guarantee that the child will recant and the molester's version of the situation will dominate. Since, however, no charges have been proven against the molester during this period of time, access to the alleged victim is seen as his absolute right.

     Let us examine the effects of visitation, unsupervised or supervised, upon a child who has been molested by a father or father figure.^1 First, I will consider unsupervised visitation. Even a five-minute unsupervised visit with the abuser (as long as he has denied the abuse) will be fatal to any attempt the child might make in the future to defend herself, in court, with social services, or in person. Obviously, since this visit has been permitted and she has been exposed to unsupervised contact with the abuser, there will never again be a guarantee that she will not be again turned over to his tender mercies, should she persist in pursuing her allegations. Any shred of trust she might have had in the system being able or even interested in protecting her is annihilated in an instant. All a molester needs to do with *one minute alone with that child* is to say, "see, you're here with me alone. If you continue to *lie about me like your mother told you to do,* then next time we are alone -- and there will be a next time -- you'll be sorry."

     If this scene seems extreme, ask yourself if a man who has already molested a child and called her a liar would have any problem inflicting this kind of intimidation on her. Ask also whether this kind of intimidation is believable when we think, for instance, about interactions between people involved in organized crime. They have no more to lose than a molester, if his victim is believed. Yet this sort of criminal coercion is believable to us when we attribute it to members of a brutal semi-foreign system we call "the family" -- meaning the Mafia. We're used to seeing them on TV intimidating and terrorizing their prey and each other. We are not used to seeing, on TV or elsewhere, a child abuser acting this way with his own biological child. But no member of the Mafia is under more control by his Don than a child is under control by her abuser parent.

     What, then, can be expected from supervised visitation with a molester who does not admit what he has done, and thus wants his victim's revelations to be disbelieved? First of all, supervised visitation sets up a paradigm for the child to follow. In the past, contact between the abuser and victim was unsupervised, and the abuser did something he made the child feel *part of.* The primary thought in a child's mind when she is being molested is -- *how should she act?* Then she must carefully design how she should act *every single minute after being molested, because she never feels normal and natural again.* Mark these words: nothing, nothing, ever feels normal and natural again for a child who has been molested. So, when a supervised visit occurs, the supervisor is seen as a powerful, authoritative figure defining -- *not how the abuser should act but how the child must act.* This is the case because a child is not accustomed to anyone defining adult behavior (especially if she has been molested, and obviously adult behavior is completely unpredictable and uncontrollable and out of bounds) -- she's used to adults defining children's behavior. Therefore, a visitation supervisor is perceived by a child as someone who lets her know what interactions are acceptable and valid -- for her. Since the supervisor does not discuss the parent's abusive actions with him and the child, the child learns they are not to be discussed. Since the supervisor does not display outrage and anger toward the adult, the child learns they are not acceptable. Since the supervisor covers over the reality of this enforced access, and pretends things are normal, the child's reality is altered and her need to "pretend normal" is insidiously reinforced. Since the supervisor facilitates the availability of the child for the pleasant pastime of the adult, the child's belief in her own status as a commodity -- as a prostitute, really -- is sealed.

     Supervisors are often members of the abuser's family, friends, allies, or other persons completely acceptable to and supportive of him. This reinforces in the child's mind not only the father's right of access to her but the apparent approval of the molester and his behavior by other adults. Visitation supervisors who are cordial, at least, and encouraging, at most, of the molester's parental role with the child become major forces to be considered by her in deciding how to conduct herself. If the supervisors are not family and friends of the molester but, rather, official persons such as social workers, they are seen in the child's mind as defining how she is to behave in the presence of other official persons (social workers, prosecutor-interviewers, police, judges, lawyers, courts). Since the visitation supervisors uniformly adopt a bland and *accommodating attitude* toward the molester, *as if nothing happened,* this is a powerful message to the child that when she is with such authoritative and official persons, she is required to do likewise.

     Supervised visits with a molester also set up a clear preference for the *pretend good visit* interaction and the fake smile, something that causes rapid psychological deterioration in any child who has already suffered child sexual abuse. During visits, the supervisor acts as if nothing had happened wrong between father and child, and as if the father loves the child and the extra person is there to enforce a certain kind of protocol upon, and to bless, the interaction. The protocol is cool, dishonest, fraudulent and deadly. The supervisor invariably acts in a polite and *accommodating manner* to the father, setting an example for the child as to what is socially acceptable in the circumstances. What this does to the child's fragile psyche is to remove permission from the child to be angry, withdrawn, afraid or honest about her feelings. She is supposed to, and does, act as if the offense had not occurred -- returning her to the condition she suffered during the abuse. At worst, every supervised visit is an emotional replay of the disassociative feelings of being molested; at best, every supervised visit tells the child, very clearly: ACCOMMODATE THE ABUSE! You are to pretend nothing happened because Daddy pretends nothing happened and even this stranger who has authority agrees that *we all pretend nothing happened.* This is the correct way for everyone to behave.

     Yes, *supervised visitation,* in its own subtle psycho-tyrannical manner, *is more invalidating to the child victim* than any other form of coercion. Any clear thinker must realize that pleasant socially-approved contact with a person who has not only grievously injured a child but who also has denied he did so and called the child a liar, is contraindicated if we truly wish to support the victim-child's mental health and emotional strength, and particularly if we look forward to her being able to testify, continue to heal, and/or defend herself in the future.

     The only non-harmful supervised visit I can imagine between a molested child and her molester would go like this: the supervisor would first tell the child that nobody's comfort or feelings are important except the child's, and that if she is uncomfortable, the visit will end instantly. The molester would enter the room and the visitation supervisor would turn to the molester and say, "do you admit that you hurt [the child]?" If he denied it, the supervisor would turn to the child and say, "do you feel comfortable?" If the answer was no, that would end the visit. Anything else or further is invariably and undeniably invalidating, because the only real message that should be given to the molester in denial is this: your denial is not acceptable or accepted. The child's revelation is 100 percent acceptable and accepted. She has every right to be angry and you have no right to interfere and most important, you have no *"right" of access to her.*

     Incidentally, if we were not all half brain-washed by the nonsense that is published about children and best interests, we would realize that it would be crazy-making to entertain a child and her molester with a smile on, making small talk and not mentioning the little "problem," rather than saying to him, in her presence, "HOW DARE YOU EXPECT HER TO PLAY WITH YOU WHEN YOU MOLESTED HER AND REFUSED TO EVEN APOLOGIZE! GET OUT!"

     Therefore, any visitation with a molester is abuse of the child unless and until the child has healed from the trauma and genuinely *wants contact* for her own reasons, on her own terms, and in her own time. That would occur, if at all, completely outside the issue of "parental rights." The only thing visitation can do, if it is requested by the parent rather than the child, is to oppress and psychologically damage the child. The only thing visitation between a victim-child and her perpetrator can do is to further empower the abuser to silence the child. Unsupervised visitation between an indicted molester and his named victim is a clear opportunity for the accused criminal to threaten the witness. *Visitation is the key to re- establishing control over the victim child and, in the context of a criminal proceeding, it is the key to breaking down the child witness.* The dynamics of the H case illustrate the model for *litigation,* as a "custody battle," *of the right to rape* -- that is, the prototypical and omnipotent father's right. A father, any father, has an undeniable, indeed inalienable right to access to his biological property. This case illustrates how paraphiliac convicted child molester H's right to rape was litigated and enforced.

Article above is an excellent example and ALL TOO COMMON.  If American's knew what children were forced to endure there would be a HUGE outcry I am certain!

Below are some facts we as parents want to change:

Incest is rarely ever prosecuted or even stopped in fact most incest is unreported. 

Statistics on child sexual abuse and incest have reached epidemic proportions. Studies suggest that as many as 1 in 4 girls and 1 in 5 boys are sexually abused by the time she/he reaches the age of 18, and about 75% of the perpetrators are close family members

Incest perpetrated by an adult of either gender against a child is called "intrafamilial child sexual abuse". The most-often reported form of incest is of this inherently abusive form. Father-daughter and stepfather-daughter incest is most commonly reported, with most of the remaining reports consisting of mother/stepmother-daughter/son incest.   Father-son incest is reported less often, however it is not known if the prevalence is less, because it is under-reported by a greater margin.  Prevalence of parental child sexual abuse is difficult to assess due to secrecy and privacy; some estimates show 20 million Americans have been victimized by parental incest as children.

Please help us end an incest victims nightmare when the monster lives in her own home and comes into her bedroom at night.

To see Kaylee's story go to a website her Grandmother founded
www.momsforjustice.org

Please sign this petition and read the articles below

The Kaylee Rain Law would help children not have to endure sexual abuse.  Court Ordered sexual abuse is being enforced by our Family Courts because a child's complaints are not accepted in Family Courts as evidence.  Most people can't believe this happens in courts in America but I am here to show you it does.  Help stop this TODAY by Signing below:

It is imperative that this common occurence and fact is brought to light because most mothers are threatened to lose all custody and rights if they report "one more time" by Child Protection workers, judges, caseworkers, Friends of the Court, attorneys and even their own attorneys in some cases.  Help us end a child's nightmare which would require the judges to stop sweeping incest under the rug.

1) Mandatory supervised visitation with an onsite visitation center when accusations of sexual abuse comes up in custody and/or visitation cases.  Supervised visitation to remain onsite supervised until psychosexual testing is completed. 


2) Psychosexual evaluation for all parties from a doctor specializing in forensic psychology specifically sexual offender testing. 


3) Cases alleging child sexual abuse, all hearings and court appearances to be video taped as is done now in parts of Michigan.  With all parties given or purchasing a copy for cost.  If any party is indigent then will get 1 free copy.


4) Judges MUST allow all evidence from both parties to be heard and included. 


5) As an exception to Hearsay statements from a child under 13 years old to be admitted alleging sexual abuse.


6) At age 12 a child can make their own choice if they want to visit their parent and be able to testify to the judge.


7)  A child of any age can testify closed camera regarding allegations of sexual abuse.  Not in judges chambers


8) A person who is diagnosed as a pedophile can not seek off site visitation or custody


9) Registered Sex Offender not be able to have custody of small children 


10) Protective Parent Act written by Richard Ducote to be included into the Kaylee Rain Law.



What is Visitation?
by Michelle Etlin

(Journal of the Child Custody Task Group of the National Organization for Men Against Sexism vol. 4, 14 (1992).

     What are the dynamics of "visitation," the various degrees of "visitation," and "access" with respect to a child who has been molested? [I think the word "access" is more accurate, since it really does semantically imply the reality, that is, the adult has *access to the child,* much as if the child were a prostitute or a service-provider or a piece of property to which that adult has rights.] It is commonly assumed that a child *must* visit her father, even if he has molested her, perhaps with some safeguard in place (for a brief time, at least) to prevent him from molesting her again.

     What happens in our courts in the general case of a father accused of sexual abuse of his own biological or legal offspring? First, perpetrators are routinely advised by their lawyers to immediately sue for custody of the child when an accusation is made, so they can cast the problem as a "false allegation made to gain advantage in a custody dispute." The only reason this did not work for H was that he was the step-father, not the biological father, of D, so he couldn't sue for custody. Still, it was essential for his strategy that he not only act as if his victim was his own child, but as if the accusation was precipitated by divorce. Most important, he had to visit the victim, for two reasons: one, he could make contact with D to intimidate her so she would recant her allegation; and two, as long as he acted like a father and the mother wanted to prevent him from visiting, the allegations could be blamed on the mother (part of a custody/visitation battle) and denied.

     At any point between revelation of the abuse and the final outcome of all court proceedings, visitation between a child and her named molester is almost a guarantee that the child will recant and the molester's version of the situation will dominate. Since, however, no charges have been proven against the molester during this period of time, access to the alleged victim is seen as his absolute right.

     Let us examine the effects of visitation, unsupervised or supervised, upon a child who has been molested by a father or father figure.^1 First, I will consider unsupervised visitation. Even a five-minute unsupervised visit with the abuser (as long as he has denied the abuse) will be fatal to any attempt the child might make in the future to defend herself, in court, with social services, or in person. Obviously, since this visit has been permitted and she has been exposed to unsupervised contact with the abuser, there will never again be a guarantee that she will not be again turned over to his tender mercies, should she persist in pursuing her allegations. Any shred of trust she might have had in the system being able or even interested in protecting her is annihilated in an instant. All a molester needs to do with *one minute alone with that child* is to say, "see, you're here with me alone. If you continue to *lie about me like your mother told you to do,* then next time we are alone -- and there will be a next time -- you'll be sorry."

     If this scene seems extreme, ask yourself if a man who has already molested a child and called her a liar would have any problem inflicting this kind of intimidation on her. Ask also whether this kind of intimidation is believable when we think, for instance, about interactions between people involved in organized crime. They have no more to lose than a molester, if his victim is believed. Yet this sort of criminal coercion is believable to us when we attribute it to members of a brutal semi-foreign system we call "the family" -- meaning the Mafia. We're used to seeing them on TV intimidating and terrorizing their prey and each other. We are not used to seeing, on TV or elsewhere, a child abuser acting this way with his own biological child. But no member of the Mafia is under more control by his Don than a child is under control by her abuser parent.

     What, then, can be expected from supervised visitation with a molester who does not admit what he has done, and thus wants his victim's revelations to be disbelieved? First of all, supervised visitation sets up a paradigm for the child to follow. In the past, contact between the abuser and victim was unsupervised, and the abuser did something he made the child feel *part of.* The primary thought in a child's mind when she is being molested is -- *how should she act?* Then she must carefully design how she should act *every single minute after being molested, because she never feels normal and natural again.* Mark these words: nothing, nothing, ever feels normal and natural again for a child who has been molested. So, when a supervised visit occurs, the supervisor is seen as a powerful, authoritative figure defining -- *not how the abuser should act but how the child must act.* This is the case because a child is not accustomed to anyone defining adult behavior (especially if she has been molested, and obviously adult behavior is completely unpredictable and uncontrollable and out of bounds) -- she's used to adults defining children's behavior. Therefore, a visitation supervisor is perceived by a child as someone who lets her know what interactions are acceptable and valid -- for her. Since the supervisor does not discuss the parent's abusive actions with him and the child, the child learns they are not to be discussed. Since the supervisor does not display outrage and anger toward the adult, the child learns they are not acceptable. Since the supervisor covers over the reality of this enforced access, and pretends things are normal, the child's reality is altered and her need to "pretend normal" is insidiously reinforced. Since the supervisor facilitates the availability of the child for the pleasant pastime of the adult, the child's belief in her own status as a commodity -- as a prostitute, really -- is sealed.

     Supervisors are often members of the abuser's family, friends, allies, or other persons completely acceptable to and supportive of him. This reinforces in the child's mind not only the father's right of access to her but the apparent approval of the molester and his behavior by other adults. Visitation supervisors who are cordial, at least, and encouraging, at most, of the molester's parental role with the child become major forces to be considered by her in deciding how to conduct herself. If the supervisors are not family and friends of the molester but, rather, official persons such as social workers, they are seen in the child's mind as defining how she is to behave in the presence of other official persons (social workers, prosecutor-interviewers, police, judges, lawyers, courts). Since the visitation supervisors uniformly adopt a bland and *accommodating attitude* toward the molester, *as if nothing happened,* this is a powerful message to the child that when she is with such authoritative and official persons, she is required to do likewise.

     Supervised visits with a molester also set up a clear preference for the *pretend good visit* interaction and the fake smile, something that causes rapid psychological deterioration in any child who has already suffered child sexual abuse. During visits, the supervisor acts as if nothing had happened wrong between father and child, and as if the father loves the child and the extra person is there to enforce a certain kind of protocol upon, and to bless, the interaction. The protocol is cool, dishonest, fraudulent and deadly. The supervisor invariably acts in a polite and *accommodating manner* to the father, setting an example for the child as to what is socially acceptable in the circumstances. What this does to the child's fragile psyche is to remove permission from the child to be angry, withdrawn, afraid or honest about her feelings. She is supposed to, and does, act as if the offense had not occurred -- returning her to the condition she suffered during the abuse. At worst, every supervised visit is an emotional replay of the disassociative feelings of being molested; at best, every supervised visit tells the child, very clearly: ACCOMMODATE THE ABUSE! You are to pretend nothing happened because Daddy pretends nothing happened and even this stranger who has authority agrees that *we all pretend nothing happened.* This is the correct way for everyone to behave.

     Yes, *supervised visitation,* in its own subtle psycho-tyrannical manner, *is more invalidating to the child victim* than any other form of coercion. Any clear thinker must realize that pleasant socially-approved contact with a person who has not only grievously injured a child but who also has denied he did so and called the child a liar, is contraindicated if we truly wish to support the victim-child's mental health and emotional strength, and particularly if we look forward to her being able to testify, continue to heal, and/or defend herself in the future.

     The only non-harmful supervised visit I can imagine between a molested child and her molester would go like this: the supervisor would first tell the child that nobody's comfort or feelings are important except the child's, and that if she is uncomfortable, the visit will end instantly. The molester would enter the room and the visitation supervisor would turn to the molester and say, "do you admit that you hurt [the child]?" If he denied it, the supervisor would turn to the child and say, "do you feel comfortable?" If the answer was no, that would end the visit. Anything else or further is invariably and undeniably invalidating, because the only real message that should be given to the molester in denial is this: your denial is not acceptable or accepted. The child's revelation is 100 percent acceptable and accepted. She has every right to be angry and you have no right to interfere and most important, you have no *"right" of access to her.*

     Incidentally, if we were not all half brain-washed by the nonsense that is published about children and best interests, we would realize that it would be crazy-making to entertain a child and her molester with a smile on, making small talk and not mentioning the little "problem," rather than saying to him, in her presence, "HOW DARE YOU EXPECT HER TO PLAY WITH YOU WHEN YOU MOLESTED HER AND REFUSED TO EVEN APOLOGIZE! GET OUT!"

     Therefore, any visitation with a molester is abuse of the child unless and until the child has healed from the trauma and genuinely *wants contact* for her own reasons, on her own terms, and in her own time. That would occur, if at all, completely outside the issue of "parental rights." The only thing visitation can do, if it is requested by the parent rather than the child, is to oppress and psychologically damage the child. The only thing visitation between a victim-child and her perpetrator can do is to further empower the abuser to silence the child. Unsupervised visitation between an indicted molester and his named victim is a clear opportunity for the accused criminal to threaten the witness. *Visitation is the key to re- establishing control over the victim child and, in the context of a criminal proceeding, it is the key to breaking down the child witness.* The dynamics of the H case illustrate the model for *litigation,* as a "custody battle," *of the right to rape* -- that is, the prototypical and omnipotent father's right. A father, any father, has an undeniable, indeed inalienable right to access to his biological property. This case illustrates how paraphiliac convicted child molester H's right to rape was litigated and enforced.

Article above is an excellent example and ALL TOO COMMON.  If American's knew what children were forced to endure there would be a HUGE outcry I am certain!

Below are some facts we as parents want to change:

Incest is rarely ever prosecuted or even stopped in fact most incest is unreported. 

Statistics on child sexual abuse and incest have reached epidemic proportions. Studies suggest that as many as 1 in 4 girls and 1 in 5 boys are sexually abused by the time she/he reaches the age of 18, and about 75% of the perpetrators are close family members

Incest perpetrated by an adult of either gender against a child is called "intrafamilial child sexual abuse". The most-often reported form of incest is of this inherently abusive form. Father-daughter and stepfather-daughter incest is most commonly reported, with most of the remaining reports consisting of mother/stepmother-daughter/son incest.   Father-son incest is reported less often, however it is not known if the prevalence is less, because it is under-reported by a greater margin.  Prevalence of parental child sexual abuse is difficult to assess due to secrecy and privacy; some estimates show 20 million Americans have been victimized by parental incest as children.

We the Undersigned as caring adults respectfully request that a law be enacted with these components to protect children.  As a rule children are not given rights in court to speak out it is thru attorneys and GALS who are not familiar with sexual abuse.  Chidren are currently denied the right to speak out against the sexual abuse they are enduring and protective parents are punished and vilified for reporting sexual abuse.  Visitation is being enforced in Family Courts across America which essentially becomes court ordered sexual abuse.  Please hear the facts to help us to take this to law to protect children.  Contrary to myth it is only 2% of all custody and visitation cases all across America that allege sexual abuse according to the American Prosecutors Research Institute.  More than 50% are founded and the others don't have enough evidence only 0.1% were deliberately false which appropriate testing we suggest below would weed out.

1) Mandatory supervised visitation with an onsite visitation center when accusations of sexual abuse comes up in custody and/or visitation cases.  Supervised visitation to remain onsite supervised until psychosexual testing is completed. 


2) Psychosexual evaluation for all parties from a doctor specializing in forensic psychology specifically sexual offender testing. 


3) Cases alleging child sexual abuse, all hearings and court appearances to be video taped as is done now in parts of Michigan.  With all parties given or purchasing a copy for cost.  If any party is indigent then will get 1 free copy.


4) Judges MUST allow all evidence from both parties to be heard and included. 


5) As an exception to Hearsay statements from a child under 13 years old to be admitted alleging sexual abuse.


6) At age 12 a child can make their own choice if they want to visit their parent and be able to testify to the judge.


7)  A child of any age can testify closed camera regarding allegations of sexual abuse.  Not in judges chambers


8) A person who is diagnosed as a pedophile can not seek off site visitation or custody


9) Registered Sex Offender not be able to have custody of small children 


10) Protective Parent Act written by Richard Ducote to be included into the Kaylee Rain Law.

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# 693:
10:25 pm PDT, May 8, Paige Buxton, Canada
I hope this petition makes a change in our court system and other agencies. I have a friend who has a child by a man who lives in Germany her daughter was sexually abused by her father. The judge says to let the father see his daughter 2 times a year for a week at a time unsupervised. The child welfare agency says they will take her 2 kids from her if she does what the judge says to do (to let the father see his daughter). As a concerned mom I bebieve that these agencies need to be on the same page. This is just wrong. Who is she supposed to listen to. It's not right. Another matter at hand that needs just as much attendtion is the child welfare system there have been many cases especially in Winnipeg Canada. They are removing children from their homes and putting thim in care where the kids are either abused, torture, murdered or all 3. How can they look a family in the eyes after tearing them apart (perhaps for no reason compared to what has happened to the kids in care). For them to look the family in the eye and say sorry but we were doing what was best for your child. This is sick,

No I wouldn't vote for that judge. The judges and agencies need to be accountable in the court of law for their actions just like everyone else. Judges should have to resign especially if they didn't listen and that child ends up abused or worse dead.

# 692:
4:08 pm PDT, May 4, Name not displayed, West Virginia
We are getting ready to enter a scenario as described above - please don't allow anymore abuse of my child - she's only 8.
# 691:
10:31 am PDT, Apr 30, Evelyn Andrews, Canada
This kind of stuff has to stop. Judges are letting the child suffer instead of the pervert. My grand daughter was molested at the ripe old age of just turn 4. The dam cops say you can't let people know who did it. Bullshit!!!!!

I'd shot the bastard the are the one who keep puting these bastards back out on the street.

# 690:
8:29 pm PDT, Apr 16, Lorraine Ramos, Texas
# 689:
7:19 pm PDT, Apr 14, Kimberly Malsman, South Carolina
Any judge that allows abuse has never suffered from child sex abuse. The judge is either a pedophile, an enabler, or just plain ignorant.
# 688:
6:38 pm PDT, Apr 10, Wendy Whitlock, Virginia
My daughter was raped by her father over a year ago please do what you can to stop this nightmare and abuse. I have fought constantly to keep my daughter safe. The court system should help the littlest victims.
# 687:
11:40 am PDT, Apr 10, Jessie Fugitt, Kansas
i dont think child molesters should have any visitation to any children not even their own. i think laws should be set to protect them not have laws that protect them after they have already been abused! WE SHOULD HAVE PREVENTIVE LAWS. MY SONS BIOLOGICAL FATHER IS A CHILD MOLESTER AND STATE OF KANSAS GRANTS HIM THE RIGHT TO SEE MY SON.

HE IS IN JAIL RIGHT NOW BUT HE WILL BE OUT EVENTUALLY AND I HAVE TO LET MY SON GO WITH HIM and what if something happens it will be to late and my son isnt even 2 yet so he cant tell me if someone hurts him

# 686:
1:34 pm PDT, Apr 4, John Saba, Pennsylvania
# 685:
12:39 am PDT, Apr 4, Name not displayed, Arizona
# 684:
10:57 pm PDT, Apr 3, Name not displayed, Pennsylvania
I have been through it myself with my father and I know the life-long impact it has. The worst part is he got away with it, and still stalks me to this day. It never ends. I remember the supervised visits where the superviser wouldn't let me cry, scared in the corner under a chair. She tried making me play with him and even hug him, and was telling him not to take my actions personally when HE seemed upset. This did send the message to me that I was being punished, and that she was on his side. The years in court from age six to teens were all for nothing, unneccessary stress on me since my voice didn't matter- "I could have been brainwashed", "There was evidence of abuse but not that he did it", etc. The fear of him waiting for me outside of my school, waiting to grab me; the fear of my peers finding out and making fun of me for it (which they did); feeling the guilt of seeing my mom constantly stressed, and the fear when the next court hearing rolled around that we wouldn't be able to afford the lawyer, and he'll be granted unsupervised custody again. Having to take a prescription sleeping pill at age 6 because I was too afraid to sleep, and the nightmares that came with them. Later came more fears. I was afraid to date. I trusted nobody, and still can't to this day, which left me very empty. When I started working he found out where by my social security number, and would stalk me. I was constantly changing jobs because of him. He was protected by "parental rights" since he was never found guilty. My therapist finally coaxed me into seeing him face to face, to have "closure" and see that he is human, not a monster, and that he can't hurt me anymore. I met him at a public place with a friend and he crossed every boundary I set, including a full-bodied embrace that still sickens me 10 years later. He feels he never did anything "wrong" and promised to get me back, which was the opposite of closure! I had to go through the nightmares all over again. Now I am a mother, a very paranoid mother with a daughter. I am so afraid that my father will have the need to meet his granddaughter and will hunt us down and take off with her. I feel it's a very real threat with the way he is obsessed with me. There is nothing the law would ever do for me. Not without evidence of him stalking, which I am not allowed to legally obtain. A restraining order never mattered, he had his friends and family following me and taking videos and pictures, just going up and down my oblivious body. (My brother was shown these at a visitation.) I am not allowed to change my social security number because he was never found guilty. His name isn't even on the sex offenders list. There never was a lie detector test or anything other than his testimony against mine. It was all considered a custody battle. To this day (30 years later) I have post traumatic stress disorder, social anxiety disorder, depression, and insomnia. The stress has taken it's toll on my body to where I now have GERD and am pre-diabetic. All from the stress that he has caused, and a life time of therapy has only done so much. I no longer blame myself or feel shameful, but the rest will never go away. I feel that molestation is the worst crime that can be committed. A young child cannot interpret or understand. A raped adult knew they were a victim, a molested child is confused, because the parent is supposed to love and protect them, supposed to be trusted...and the psychological damage is more complex. The child already feels like the adult is intimidating and in control, and goes into court feeling terrified and weak, only for that feeling to become validated when they're sent to visitations. Going to court-It's the most desperate feeling and at the same time it feels shameful to go against your parent, no matter what they did, but do it anyway to be rescued. And then having to see him again... that's the day I felt completely deflated, numb, and isolated. I never expected anyone to be safe or trusting or caring after the courts acted like they were, and then dismissed me. His voice counted, mine didn't, and that was the end of any self confidence or self worth I could have. I apologize for the novel, but felt the need to let my voice be heard, and to put the very real and lasting damage into words. Something NEEDS to finally be done about this. I think people might think that kids don't understand and won't remember and will heal quickly like it was a scrape on the knee, but it's the deepest wound that lasts a lifetime. I know that there are others who haven't been as "lucky" as me and I can't imagine their life of pain. It doesn't matter what the molester's reasons or background is. They know what they are doing, and it is for their own sick, selfish reasons. It's murder to the victim, only worse because we have to live with it, we'll never forget. All aspects of our life have been changed and robbed from us. The molester will forever be in control, at some level. (Again I apologize for the novel!)

Hell No

# 683:
10:39 pm PDT, Apr 3, Ashley Carlson, Washington
Please help us stop child abuse.
# 682:
10:20 pm PDT, Apr 3, Gracie Carbonaro, Florida
No child should be forced to even look at a pic of the abuser after the child has told someone what happened. Sick people who molest children should not even be allowed to live after being convicted bc that just gives them the cjance to hurt another kid and why waste money that should be going to schools instead of prisons trying to help someone that cant and will never be rehabilitated.

I would not vote for that judge. He is just helping the molester get away with what he has done with the child.

# 681:
9:37 pm PDT, Apr 3, Jessica Symczak, Massachusetts
# 680:
9:34 pm PDT, Apr 3, Rachelle Weeks, Florida
# 679:
8:25 pm PDT, Apr 3, Amanda Arroyo, Connecticut
Any time a child cries when having to leave with a certain person they should NOT be forced to do so because of custody rights or the law, they should have time to see WHY the child is hystarical.

NO

# 678:
7:49 pm PDT, Apr 1, Name not displayed, Michigan
We would like to think that the legal system will do the right thing for abused children, but we all know they don't really have the best interest of a sexually abused child at heart. All they do is enforce the cold hard law, and are so wrapped up in the rights of the perpetrator that the rights of the child victim come in second, if at all. I also experienced the law doing nothing because my granddaughter was too young to be a reliable witness against a child molester, who has since gone on to molest many other children. It is time the laws were changed to give children a face and feelings and consideration for what they have experienced, and especially protect those who suffer at the hands of the adults who are supposed to protect them.
# 677:
11:37 am PDT, Mar 31, Tracey Belknap, Michigan
# 676:
10:19 am PDT, Mar 31, Lindsey Parker, Michigan
# 675:
5:51 pm PDT, Mar 30, Lorri Howard, Michigan
# 674:
5:04 pm PDT, Mar 29, Barb Wild, New York
# 673:
1:15 pm PDT, Mar 29, Sarah Wild, New York
never
# 672:
11:44 pm PDT, Mar 25, Name not displayed, Australia
# 671:
7:23 am PDT, Mar 25, Name not displayed, Arkansas
This abuse needs to be stopped. These children need a voice!

No, I would not vote for any judge that would not allow all evidence to be seen in order to protect a child from an abuser. I would not vote for anyone who allows a child to be returned into an abusive situation.

# 670:
5:34 pm PDT, Mar 24, Diane Myles, Canada
# 669:
6:35 am PDT, Mar 24, Ursula Hasselbacher, Germany
I agree with #668 please Pray for my friends Grand daughter and Daughter to.

never

# 668:
2:21 pm PDT, Mar 23, Annet McPeake, Michigan
I agree with #659 Pray for my Grand daughter and Daughter.

NO

# 667:
3:06 pm PDT, Mar 18, Name not displayed, Illinois
# 666:
6:23 pm PDT, Mar 17, Michelle Laubenstein, Kansas
Every Child has the right to be heard and has the right to an abuse-free life.
# 665:
3:53 pm PDT, Mar 17, Sylvia Cerino Sauer, Illinois
We need to protect our Children NOW. This can no longer continue. The cycle has to stop NOW. It is the right of our Children's sanity, safety and well being that we are fighting for. I cannot bear the thought of my child or any child being forced to visitation. It is very unjust, inhumane and is a CRIME.

No, I would not vote for a judge who is not considering a child as a human being who has rights.

# 664:
2:55 pm PDT, Mar 17, Lisa Lepore, California
# 663:
2:10 pm PDT, Mar 17, Janelle Strother, Missouri
# 662:
7:19 pm PDT, Mar 16, Leila Perdew, Maryland
# 661:
8:43 pm PDT, Mar 8, Name not displayed, Washington
No I would not vote for a judgle like that.
# 660:
10:07 am PDT, Mar 8, Brad Bennett, Canada
# 659:
5:31 pm PST, Mar 7, Name not displayed, New Jersey
Innocent until proven guilty should not apply in child molestation/incest/abuse cases. The child should be protected immediately and never forced to see the accused as soon as suspicion or accusation of abuse has been made. The protection of a child should not be wrapped up in red tape. These are our innocent children and we as a society are collectively responsible for protecting them.
# 658:
4:24 pm PST, Mar 7, Barbara Hamill, Michigan
No!
# 657:
5:41 am PST, Mar 7, Leanne Riley, United Kingdom
# 656:
3:31 pm PST, Mar 4, Samantha Lewis, North Carolina
# 655:
1:12 pm PST, Mar 3, Sebastian Benavides, Michigan
# 654:
7:03 am PST, Mar 3, Geri Musick, Illinois
My group is more for parents that are falsely accused. But I have seen that more and nore cases of actual abuse going on the back burner or had officials look the other way because thoes cases don't bring as much if any revenue to their pockets. This sounds like a case that SHOULD be handled by a child's advocate acency. http://www.care2.com/c2c/group/CHANGE_REFORM http://www.thepetitionsite.com/3/Children-And-Family-Rights http://www.thepetitionsite.com/3/Save-Our-Family

No! Judges fall in the "Mandated Reporter" description as outlined in the DCFS/CPS Procedure Manual. They should be fined and jailed just as DCFS/CPS says they will if they have knowledge of abuse or neglect and do not report it.

# 653:
7:32 pm PST, Mar 1, Doris Silber, Maryland
# 651:
8:14 pm PST, Feb 27, Name not displayed, Missouri
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