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We, the undersigned completely disagree with the intention to take Fran Lyons newborn baby away

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We the undersigned believe that the Social Services' intention to take Fran Lyons new born baby away from her, immediately after her birth, is completely wrong and should not happen. The decision by Social Services is as a result of an assessment made by a paediatrician (who hasn't met Fran) that she may suffer, from Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy.
Fran Lyon suffered from mental health issues when she was 16 years old, following a serious sexual assault, and received therapy for two years. She has not received or needed any mental health therapy since that time. Her treating psychiatrist has explicitly stated that she has no concerns whatsoever for Fran's mental health.
Fran Lyon should at the very least be allowed to stay in an assessment unit with her baby, Molly, pending an inevitable decision that she is capable of caring for her daughter independently.
We the undersigned believe that the Social Services' intention to take Fran Lyons new born baby away from her, immediately after her birth, is completely wrong and should not happen. The decision by Social Services is as a result of an assessment made by a paediatrician (who hasn't met Fran) that she may suffer, from Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy.
Fran Lyon suffered from mental health issues when she was 16 years old, following a serious sexual assault, and received therapy for two years. She has not received or needed any mental health therapy since that time. Her treating psychiatrist has explicitly stated that she has no concerns whatsoever for Fran's mental health.
Fran Lyon should at the very least be allowed to stay in an assessment unit with her baby, Molly, pending an inevitable decision that she is capable of caring for her daughter independently.
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We signed the "We, the undersigned completely disagree with the intention to take Fran Lyons newborn baby away" petition!
# 1,063:
2:35 pm PDT, Apr 17, Name not displayed, United Kingdom
as someone diagnosed with the same type of mental health issue as Fran Lyons, i am concerned that i may not be given rights to keep my child SHOULD i ever become a mother.
# 1,062:
7:17 am PDT, Apr 7, Susan Peters, United Kingdom
This is legalised kidnap. It is appauling that in a so called civilised society a woman can have her children stollen from her when there is absolutely no evidence of abuse. There would be a human rights outcry if a person was punished for a crime they have not yet but MIGHT commit, yet women can be punished in the worst imaginable way for something they may or may not do to their children! Perverse and unjust in the extreme.
# 1,061:
12:29 pm PDT, Mar 29, Ines Seidel, Germany
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3:42 pm PDT, Mar 28, Anne Seidel, Germany
# 1,059:
12:12 am PDT, Mar 14, Diane Wright, United Kingdom
This mother needs help not punishment and her baby needs her. The pre-meditated cruelty of their separation must be stopped as it violates humananity.
# 1,058:
6:50 am PST, Mar 5, De Anna Nobles, North Carolina
# 1,057:
4:28 pm PST, Mar 1, Diana Mitchell, United Kingdom
It is simply wrong to take a child from it's mother when any genuine concern could be met by other measures. Not so long ago there was an article in the Falmouth Independent, a newspaper in Corwall, U.K. which said that as coucils were given incentive payments to reduce the number of children in care this led to social workers taking babies into care knowing that they would be soon adopted so the council concerned could boost it's adoption numbers for incentive payments. Also, it seemed, solicitors were willing participants as ordering paychiatric reports on the mother and other medical reports and court work generally became a lucrative source of income.
# 1,056:
10:50 am PST, Feb 25, Danielle Norberg, Virginia
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4:04 am PST, Feb 23, Sabrina O'Connor, United Kingdom
I too suffered various problems as a teenager, I now have a 1 year ols son who is healthly, VERY loved and has a modest but good life. He was the one thing that turned my life around. Fran should AT LEAST be given the chance to prove she is a good mother without having her baby taken from her. Those first moments with your baby are the more vital, that early bonding. Any mother can vouch for that. Don't deprive her OR her baby of that. ust look up your attachment theories and see what damage taking the baby can do to the baby mentally. Thats abuse.
# 1,054:
5:06 am PST, Feb 21, Hayley Louise Maher, United Kingdom
It is completely against both the mother and babies Human rights to take the baby away based on a maybe.This should be monitored by social services but not ascted upon.After all this is one opinion from one "professional".Other professional opinions should be sought and if I were her I should insist on this professional still working in the NHS.A independant private opinion should be sought too.Perhaps she could ask her treating pyschitrist to refer her for an assessment. People who are treating you and refer you to somone else within the NHS have your best interests at heart. As opposed to a court apointed professional that does court reports for a living. Even if it were the case she had Munchausen syndrome by proxy she should have help not punishment. I think that there isnt enough evidence usually to prove munchausen by proxy and so that they should wait and see how they both fair.The legal system for both private and public law in my opinion is disempowering to women[and men]and she should fight tooth and nail to disprove this peditrician and his lone opinion.Keep fighting and dispute every little detail of the allegations if you can.
# 1,053:
11:47 pm PST, Feb 14, Tanya Waller, United Kingdom
Why should this womans past still haunt her? Social services should concentrate on saving children that are being abused and killed and leave this woman alone, she is no threat to anyone. I wish her well and hope and pray for her and her baby.......XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
# 1,052:
4:06 am PST, Feb 11, Alyson VonBrandenburg, United Kingdom
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11:05 am PST, Feb 8, Alexis Tracey, United Kingdom
fRAN MY HEART & THOTS R WITH U LOVE!social work took my 2 sons then aged 13mnths & 9wks for "3wks RESTPITE" that was in dec 2003 & they still haven't gave me them back! i also had mental health problems as a teenager as a result of sexual abuse from the age of 6 to 9 and they r saying that coz that happend to me that id do it or allow it to be done to my own kids this is total NONSENSE!!!!!! What happend to me has only strengthend my maternal insinct to PROTECT not only MY KIDS but ALL KIDS from these EVIL SKUM! most social workers(like the 1 who removed my boys)dont even have any kids of ther own so as i c it r in NO position to tell ANYONE ELSE HOW 2 raise thier kids or that they r a bad parent or doing it wrong! You CANNOT "LEARN" HOW 2 TAKE CARE OF KIDS FROM A TEXT BOOK OR SAY BECAUSE SUM1 WAS IN CARE THEMSELVES AS A TEENAGER THAT THEY'LL B A BAD PARENT?I see my kids for an hour once a month & my mum, gran, brothers,stepdad & the rest of my extended family DONT SEE THEM AT ALL & HAVENT SEEN THEM IN ALMOST 4 YRS?tHEY LIVE WITH MY MUMS SISTERS & this makes it worse that with the support of social work "family" can do this to me!Its also unfair on the kids who could have stayed with me if social work had put additional supports in place but that would have ment EXTRA WORK for them this was easier!They say they tried to rehabilitate the boys with me but this is RUBBISH!When they took my boys i turned to drugs to make me forget but came to my senses after a few mnths ,AT THIS POINT I WANT TO STRESS TO ANYONE WHO READS THIS THAT NONE of my boys were born with DRUG OR ALCOHOL ADDICTIONS they were both very healthy and good weights my oldest was on time weighing 7lb 3oz & my youngest who was 4 & a 1/2 wks premature weighed a VERY helthy 7lb 1 & 1/2oz! & even though they were NOT BORN withdrawing from ANY KIND of drugs or alcohol social work still say that i WASan addict during BOTH my pegnancies even though DRS have told them that if there was ANY yruth in this then both kids would have showen SOME signs of this & they DIDNT?tHESE PEOPLE dont GIVE A TOSS ABOUT TRUTH OR WHO THEY HURT & 9 OUT OF 10 R TOTALLY CLUELESS when it comes to bieng tactful & understanding at the end of the day its just a wage to them to us its OUR LIFES??? NONE of my family have a criminal record they DONT do drugs they ARE honest clean living law abiding people who with the help & guidence of a "GOOD SOCIAL WORKER" who was genuinley trying to HELP ME thre would have been no reasons for concern , Instead they took the word of a self proclaimed LIER who has changed her story not only ONCE BUT 5 TIMES in the space of the 1st 6mnths of my case but they still take her word as the "HOLY GOSPEL" in the past 4yrs WHY belive someone who has freely addmitted lieing to you not once but 5 times?I have been TOTALLY CLEAN for 3 & 1/2yrs & HAVE NOT RELAPSED EVEN ONCE IN THAT TIME?I have done it ALL myself with NO HELP AT ALL FROM SOCIAL WORK only my family my G.P & counseler who are AMAZEING and have supported me A MILLION% i have beaten all this ALONE as far as social work gos they even REFUSED to help me get a house i had to wait 3yrs on the homless but im in my own flat in a relly nice area off drugs and doing as well as can be expected withought my babies and i did it with NO HELP from the so called "SYSTEM WHO ARE THERE TO HELP & SUPPORT PEOPLE LIKE ME" THEY HAVE LET ME & MY KIDS DOWN VERY BADLY AND STILL SIT & TRY TO CRITISISE EVERYTHING I'VE DONE TO SORT MY LIFE OUT FOR THE PAST 4YRS BECAUSE THEY CANT TAKE ANY CREDIT FOR ANY OF THE GOOD STUFF I'VE ACHIVED & MY G.P IS BEHIND ME 110% & HAS TOLD SOCIAL WORK THAT MY KIDS ARE IN NO DANGER AT ALL FROM ME & HES BEEN MY DR SCINCE I WAS BORN?THEY LIKE FRAN HAVE BASED THIER MEDICAL ASSESMENT ON A G.P WHO MET ME ONCE FOR 5MINS & WHO DID NOT HAVE ANY ACESS TO MY MEDICAL FILES WHO SAID I HAD POSTNATEL DEPRESSION & WAS A DANGER TO MYSELF & MY KIDS & THE PUBLIC?AND SHE GOT ALL THIS FROM A 5MIN CONVERSATION WITH NO MEDICAL HISTORY AVALIBLE TO HER & EVEN WHEN MY OWN DR SAID THAT IT WAS ALL NONSENSE THEY ARE STILL 4YRS ON USEING THE INFO OF A DR WHO DIDNT KNOW ME?IM AT A LOOSE END & DONT KNOW WHAT ELSE TO DO & MY HEART GOES OUT TO ALL THOSE MOTHERS WHO ARE IN THE SAME POSITION AS ME & FRAN? I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO ARE BAD TO KIDS I WAS ON THE RECIVING END OF THIS AS A KID & HAD MY INNOCENCE & CHILDHOOD STOLEN BY AN EVIL B*****D (WHO WAS NOT A FAMILY MEMBER IT WAS MY WEE BROTHERS DAD & MY MUM & THE REST OF MY FAMILY ONLY FOUND OUT AFTER THT RELATIONSHIP ENDED)BUT NOT ALL PEOPLE WHO'VE BEEN ABUSED OR BEEN IN CARE ARE LIKE THIS?THATS LIKE SAYING IF YOU BREASTFEED THE CHILD WILL BE A MILK MAN, ITS JUST NOT TRUE OR REASONABLE?I LOVE MY KIDS ID KILL FOR THEM ID TAKE A BULLET FOR THEM THEY ARE MY WHOLE LIFE & ALL I WANT IS WHATS BEST FOR THEM, I MESSED UP MY EDUCATION & I WAS DETERMIND THAT MY BOYS WOULD HAVE ALL THE CHANCES I DIDNT & THAST THEYD DO SOMTHING WITH THIER LIFES & NOT GROW UP LIKE WEE NEDS OR TROUBLE MAKERS BUT NOW THATS UNLIKLEY,GROWING UP IN CARE IS THE WORST THING THAT CAN HAPPEN AS THEY WILL GROW UP & THINK THAT THIER PARENTS DONT LOVE THEM & DIDNT WANT THEM & I KNOW MY 2 "aunts & there familys" and iKNOW thats what thy will tell my boys & that WILL NOT be GOOD for them to think these things it may even ruin thier lifes as they may feel unloved & rejected by the 1person who should be thier constant hero who chases away the monsters under the bed & tucks you in all warm & snug when you are sick & makes you special soup to make you all better & to kiss away the pain whn you fall off your bike or when u dont feel well YOUR MUM???? NOT YOUR MUMS AUNTY OR UNCLE OR COUSIN????? SOCIL WORKERS NEED TO GET THIER FACTS RIGHT & REMOVE THE REAL KIDS IN DANGER & NOT THE ONES WHOS PARENTS MAY NEED A BIT OF SUPPORT & HELP BUT ARE PERFECTLY SAFE & WELL CARED FOR AS MY BOYS WERE THEY WERE SAFE CLEAN & WELL FED & HAD MORE THAN ENOUGH AGE APPROPIATE TOYS THEY HAD A HELTHY DIET AND AT 13MNTHS MY OLDEST SON ENJOYED REAL FOOD MADE FROM SCRATCH SUCH AS MINCE & TATTIES WITH VEG OR SPGGETTI BOLGNASE THINGS LIKE THAT NOW THEY DONT LIKE THESE THINGS AS MY AUNT ONLY BUYS FRZEN FOOD AS ITS EASIER TO COOK OR THEY HAVE TAKEAWAYS AS SHE HER HUSBAND & THERE OWN 3 KIDS ALL OVERWIEGHT & HAVE ALWAYS BEEN THAT WAY THIER YOUNGEST SON IS OBESE & SITS IN FRONT OF THE TV OR COMPUTER ALL DAY & RARLEY PLAYS OUTSIDE HE ONLY EATS MCDONALDS AND SAUSAGE FROM THE CHIPSOP & A FEW OTHER FROZEN FOODS OF THIS TYPE BURGERS & SUCH & REFUSES TO EAT ANY KIND OF VEG AT ALL EVEN BEANS OR SPAGETTI?AND SOCIL WORK DONT THINK THIS IS A CAUSE FOR CONCERN AND ARE HAPPY FOR MY KIDS TO HAVE THE SAME DIET AS MY COUSIN EVEN THOUGH IM WORRIED THAT THEY DONT EAT HEALTHY ENOUGH?MY 2 SONS TEETH ARE DISGRACEFUL AS THEY OBVIOUSLY DONT BOTHER TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE BRUSHING THEM & AT 3YRS OLD MY YOUNGEST HAD 4 TEETH REMOVED AS THEY WERE ROTTEN & SOCIAL WORK TRIED TO BLAME ME BY SAYING IT WAS PENATEL(BEFORE HE WAS BORN) MY OWN DENTIST SAID IF HIS TEETH DIDNT COME IN ROTTEN THEN IT WOULD BE MORE LIKLEY TO MUCH SUGAR & NOT BRUSHING THEM TWICE A DAY?I KOW KIDS HAVE DIED & BEEN VERY BADLY HURT THROUGH ABUSE & NEGLECT AT THE HANDS OF PARENTS BUT THOSE FAMILYS WHO WERE UNDER SOCIAL WORK ERS WHO L;ET IT GO ON ARE TO BLAME AS MUCH AS THE ABUSERS THEY SHOULD REMOVE THEY KIDS BEFORE IT GETS THAT FAR AND HELP PEOPLE LIKE ME & FRAN WHO JUST NEED A WEE BIT OF HELP THATS WHY THESE POOR WEE KIDS END UP DEAD OR WORSE COZ OF SOCIL WORKS STUPIDITY?????? PLEASE HELP US PARENTS WHO WOULD NEVER HURT OUR KIDS JUST COZ WE NEED A BIT OF HELP & SUPPORT DOES NOT MEAN WE ARE BAD MOTHERS ???????????? GOOD LUCK FRAN & WEE MOLLY GOD BLESS & I HOPE THE ANGELS KEEP U SAFE & TOGETHER ALL MY LOVE ALEXIS TRACEY XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
# 1,050:
5:21 am PST, Feb 2, Clare Roberts, United Kingdom
SS DO YOUR JOB PROPERLY, YOU SHOWER OF EVIL BASTARDS
# 1,049:
9:11 am PST, Jan 31, Name not displayed, United Kingdom
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9:36 am PST, Jan 30, Anton Oscar Iorga, Canada
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3:01 pm PST, Jan 29, Name not displayed, New Jersey
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11:36 pm PST, Jan 25, Julie Washburn, Arkansas
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5:53 am PST, Jan 24, Name not displayed, New York
# 1,044:
3:12 pm PST, Jan 23, Name not displayed, United Kingdom
stop wasting time and money. do something that is REALLY needed..
# 1,043:
12:46 pm PST, Jan 21, Becki Elson, United Kingdom
yet another injustice against an innocent mother. the care system is a joke.
# 1,042:
7:03 pm PST, Jan 17, Name not displayed, United Kingdom
DISGRACEFUL! Another miscarriage of 'so called justice' Advised to seek doctors advice, for mental health issues? For what? To have it held against you. The brain can get 'sick' just like any other part of the body and if you break a leg it doesn't mean you will never walk again! Legitimate child snathchers? Is that what social services amount to? What about the mental health issues this child will have through SS actions! Who is monitoring Social Services? They cant be a law unto themselves!Thats why THE HUMAN RIGHTS ACT is an assest to this CRAZY country. As for this 'so called professional' He should be struck off, before we have another Sally Clark. HOW DARE THEY RUIN THIS WOMANS LIFE..I 'might' burn the dinner tomorrow, then again I might not! Wot an insult to this womans personal therapist, who is professional in her opinion! Social services should intervene in the children that are being abused, through the courts and poverty, not through unjustified presumptions!
# 1,041:
3:30 pm PST, Jan 16, Name not displayed, Kentucky
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2:13 am PST, Jan 9, Name not displayed, United Kingdom
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8:16 am PST, Jan 7, Steve Thorley, United Kingdom
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7:15 am PST, Jan 7, Steve Thorley, United Kingdom
The whole issue makes a mockery of the social services system. I would sign a petition if it was posted on the 10 Downing Street web site and think that this would be more effective than a world wide web.
# 1,037:
10:42 am PST, Dec 31, Simos Tarabatzis, Greece
# 1,036:
6:14 pm PST, Dec 30, GranPa Chuck, California
I surely hope you can get support for this petition. However, too many children are still being removed without proof of Child Abuse. Just false allegations. If you believe YOU ARE GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT please do not follow this link to sign this petition against Constitutional Rights being abused by Family Welfare Agencies Against FAMILIES: link to petition: http://rscraps.com/FPReform/Petitions/Petitition1.htm
# 1,035:
5:47 pm PST, Dec 30, Dana Yandle, North Carolina
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9:04 am PST, Dec 30, Name not displayed, United Kingdom
.....awful! surely mental health 'experts' should still be helping her -if she needs it- rather than going back to the stigmatised 'mental cases'... also does this mrean that anyone who has had mental health issues in the past cant keep their baby.....
# 1,033:
2:24 pm PST, Dec 28, Victoria Mary Stong / Anti-Corruption Activist, New York
................Just more of your tax dollars at work to support CORRUPTION IN FAMILY COURT! If you aren't well off and/or have no connections like me, you'll lose in Family Court. ***THIS IS A PICTURE OF MY CORRUPTED UNCLE RALPH AND FUMIKO ROUBICEK WHO COMMENCED A BOGUS FAMILY COURT CASE AGAINST ME WITH ALL MY ROUBICEK, JARVIS, VENTURELLA (& OTHER FAMILY MEMBERS WHOSE NAMES DON'T APPEAR IN THE PAPERS LIKE THE FORDS & KRAKAURS) TO UNJUSTIFIEDLY DENY ME OF A HEALTHY RELATIONSHIP WITH MY GRANDMOTHER AND NAMESAKE VICTORIA MARY ROUBICEK. MY GRANDMOTHER WAS KEPT FROM ME UNLAWFULLY AND THEN SHE DIED. I HAVE BEEN CHEATED OF MY GRANDMOTHER, MEMORIES WITH HER AND IT'S JUST THE SAME AS BEING STOLEN FROM! YES, UNFORTUNATELY I ALSO COME FROM A VERY CORRUPTED FAMILY OF POLICE AND COURT PERSONNEL.
# 1,032:
4:43 pm PST, Dec 21, Name not displayed, Kentucky
# 1,031:
1:39 pm PST, Dec 19, Sharon Pointon, United Kingdom
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7:40 am PST, Dec 18, Name not displayed, Netherlands
Such injustice.
# 1,029:
7:15 am PST, Dec 18, Sally Cook, United Kingdom
Everyone should be given a chance for liberty, justice and freedom.
# 1,028:
6:35 pm PST, Dec 11, Damaris Santana, Ohio
# 1,027:
8:50 am PST, Dec 11, Karlene Gordon, New York
It pains my heart to know that this form of abuse and injustice is not limited to New York or America, but is an international epidemic. The attack on and destruction of the family is evident by the unconscionable crime of separating Mother & Child.
# 1,026:
10:25 pm PST, Dec 10, Olivia Geri, New Jersey
I dont understand what is wrong with this sick government and its sick laws no one should have the right or access to take a child away from their Mother or Family, where is the justice give that woman a chance quit being power happy, worry about the murderers and rapists in America.
# 1,025:
1:09 pm PST, Dec 10, Shane Sotelo, California
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1:51 pm PST, Dec 9, Vanessa and Marvin James, New York
Fran I live in the Unite State and I am suffering the same abuse that you are my story has been in the media for 3 months please contact me if you can.
# 1,023:
12:23 pm PST, Dec 9, Rolando Bini, New York
CPS are the Greatest Child Abusers. For every child they may help, they destroy 1,000. Also they create Orphans of children who have loving parents. The mission of the Social Workers is to make a parasite of everyone, ever dependent of them. They, together with CPS workers, so-called Law Guardians, Foster Care workers and Family Court Judges should be given life in prison with forced labor. They are an army of predators looking for those who offer the lest resistance. They are the main reason why the prison, homeless and mentally ill populations are ever expanding. They are a Social Cancer on their own and a Social Cancers producers. They are a disgrace to the Human Race. Let's get rid of them. See http://www.parentsinaction.net
# 1,022:
12:33 pm PST, Dec 8, Sharon Ramos, United Kingdom
How can a decision so life changing be made by a paediatrician who hasn't even men Fran Lyons!!!!
# 1,021:
11:07 am PST, Dec 8, Carley Brierley, United Kingdom
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7:51 am PST, Dec 8, Catriona Evans, United Kingdom
Watched this girl on This Morning and on GMTV- she does not deserve to be treated this way! Let her keep her baby!
# 1,019:
7:31 am PST, Dec 8, HANNAH FEAR, United Kingdom
# 1,018:
1:46 am PST, Dec 8, Sharon White, United Kingdom
How can someone who has never met this girl make such a big decision on a baby's life
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9:38 pm PST, Dec 7, Kay Wilkin, United Kingdom
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2:17 pm PST, Dec 7, William Riordan, Louisiana
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3:04 am PST, Dec 6, Audrey Mealiff, Ireland
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4:29 am PST, Dec 5, Miriam Crozier, United Kingdom
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4:00 pm PST, Dec 4, Elizabeth Connolly, United Kingdom
# 1,012:
10:50 am PST, Dec 4, Melanie Harris, United Kingdom
How about giving the poor woman and child a break? she could go to a mother and baby unit, be monitored etc so that actual risk could be assessed rather than a 1 in a million theoretical risk!
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8:19 am PST, Dec 4, Gina Hilt, Indiana
Assess her, yes, immediately take her child from her, no. Smacks of Big Brother to me. Social Services would be better to use their resources removing children from homes that have already been abused and neglected, not trying to be psychics thinking this one *MAY* be abused.
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6:34 am PST, Dec 4, Janice Furlong, United Kingdom
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2:52 am PST, Dec 4, Joanne Lewis, United Kingdom
p.a.s was used against us by another misogynist
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9:33 am PST, Dec 3, Caren Gradel, United Kingdom
This is not new, I have seen things like this happen before.
# 1,007:
5:59 am PST, Dec 3, Jennifer Wood, United Kingdom
There are no words to express my feelings on this issue, It is very wrong what social services are going do. I have been through a very simily experience in the past. It should never happen to anyone.
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8:33 am PST, Dec 1, Name not displayed, California
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6:18 am PST, Dec 1, Joseph O'Brien, New Jersey
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3:49 am PST, Dec 1, Sandra Strautnieks, United Kingdom
at the very minimum she should be properly assessed and followed - this treatment is despicable!!!!
# 1,002:
2:09 am PST, Dec 1, Hayley Leon, United Kingdom
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3:25 am PST, Nov 30, Susan Evison, United Kingdom
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