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Lower Drinking age in military

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This petition is to lower the drinking age in the military to 18. It is not right that a 18 year old soldier can be deployed and die for his country but cannot goto the bar, or goto the class 6 and buy a case. If a soldier can be deployed he/she should in all rights buy a beer.

the information below could be of use to you to inform you of why we cannot drink if we are underage.


http://usmilitary.about.com/od/justicelawlegislation/a/drinkingage.htm


"In the "old days" anyone on active duty could consume alcohol on military installations, regardless of the legal drinking age off-base.

However, in the mid-80s, advocacy groups, such as MADD (Mothers Against Drunken Drivers) lobbied Congress to change this. Federal law (United States Code, Title 10, Section 2683) requires military installation commanders to adopt the same drinking age as the state the military base is located in. The only exception to this rule is if the base is located within 50 miles of Canada or Mexico, or a state with a lower drinking age, the installation commander may adopt the lower drinking age for military personnel on base.
This law is also codified in DoD Instruction 1015.10, which states:

The minimum drinking age on a DoD installation located in a State (including the District of Columbia) shall be consistent with the age established by the law of that State as the State minimum drinking age. Minimum drinking age means the minimum age established for persons who may purchase, possess, or consume alcoholic beverages.

In the case of a DoD installation located in more than one State or in one State but within 50 miles of another State or Mexico or Canada, the minimum drinking age on that DoD installation shall be the lowest applicable age of the State in which the DoD installation is located or the State or jurisdiction of Mexico or Canada that is within 50 miles of such DoD installation.

The minimum drinking age on a DoD installation located outside the United States shall be 18 years of age. Higher minimum drinking age will be based on international treaties and agreements and on the local situation as determined by the local installation commander.

The commander of a DoD installation may waive the above requirements, if such commander determines that the exemption is justified by special circumstances. Special circumstances are those infrequent, non-routine military occasions when an entire unit, as a group, marks at a military installation a uniquely military occasion such as the conclusion of arduous military duty or the anniversary of the establishment of a military service or organization. The event must be held on a military installation. The commander shall ensure that appropriate controls are in place to prevent endangering Military Service members or the surrounding community.


While the law and DOD Directive allow drinking on-base by those under the age of 21 if the base is located within 50 miles of a country that allows a lower drinking age, the Secretary of the Navy issued a Navy policy (which included the Marine Corps), which prohibited the practice. Until then, on-base drinking by sailors and Marines on bases within 50 miles of Mexico (such as Camp Pendleton) was common.

A couple of years later, the Army followed suit, prohibiting on-base drinking on its bases (such as Fort Bliss, Texas and White Sands Missile Range) which were within 50 miles of Mexico. The Air Force never did allow installation commanders to adopt the "50 mile rule."

In 1997, the Marine Commandant issued a policy which restricted on and off base drinking for Marines stationed overseas to age 21, even if the host-country had a lower drinking age law.

But in September 2006, the Corps lowered the drinking age for Marines in Japan to 20 to reflect the local drinking age.

With respect to the "special circumstances" rule, I should point out that all of the services require the installation commander to get special permission from their respective service headquarters in order to lower the drinking age for these special events. For example, if an Air Force Installation Commander wanted to lower the drinking age requirement for a party to celebrate the Air Force's "Birthday," he or she would need permission of the office of the Air Force Chief of Staff. Because a commander would be literally "sticking their neck out," (in case something happens), in my experience, such permission is almost never requested.

However, The Marines may have a different philosophy. In April 2007, the Marine Corps Commandant signed off on MARADMIN 266/07, allowing 18-year-old Marines to drink in foreign ports if the host nation%u2019s law allows it.

The message also gives the "green light" for Marine Corps commanders to have parties on base where 18 year old Marines can drink, during infrequent special occasions, such as a unit's return from combat deployment, or during the Marine Corps' Birthday Ball. The directive mandates that commanders "ensure that appropriate controls are in place to prevent endangering Military service members or the surrounding community," during such events. "


This petition is to lower the drinking age in the military to 18. It is not right that a 18 year old soldier can be deployed and die for his country but cannot goto the bar, or goto the class 6 and buy a case. If a soldier can be deployed he/she should in all rights buy a beer.

the information below could be of use to you to inform you of why we cannot drink if we are underage.


http://usmilitary.about.com/od/justicelawlegislation/a/drinkingage.htm


"In the "old days" anyone on active duty could consume alcohol on military installations, regardless of the legal drinking age off-base.

However, in the mid-80s, advocacy groups, such as MADD (Mothers Against Drunken Drivers) lobbied Congress to change this. Federal law (United States Code, Title 10, Section 2683) requires military installation commanders to adopt the same drinking age as the state the military base is located in. The only exception to this rule is if the base is located within 50 miles of Canada or Mexico, or a state with a lower drinking age, the installation commander may adopt the lower drinking age for military personnel on base.
This law is also codified in DoD Instruction 1015.10, which states:

The minimum drinking age on a DoD installation located in a State (including the District of Columbia) shall be consistent with the age established by the law of that State as the State minimum drinking age. Minimum drinking age means the minimum age established for persons who may purchase, possess, or consume alcoholic beverages.

In the case of a DoD installation located in more than one State or in one State but within 50 miles of another State or Mexico or Canada, the minimum drinking age on that DoD installation shall be the lowest applicable age of the State in which the DoD installation is located or the State or jurisdiction of Mexico or Canada that is within 50 miles of such DoD installation.

The minimum drinking age on a DoD installation located outside the United States shall be 18 years of age. Higher minimum drinking age will be based on international treaties and agreements and on the local situation as determined by the local installation commander.

The commander of a DoD installation may waive the above requirements, if such commander determines that the exemption is justified by special circumstances. Special circumstances are those infrequent, non-routine military occasions when an entire unit, as a group, marks at a military installation a uniquely military occasion such as the conclusion of arduous military duty or the anniversary of the establishment of a military service or organization. The event must be held on a military installation. The commander shall ensure that appropriate controls are in place to prevent endangering Military Service members or the surrounding community.


While the law and DOD Directive allow drinking on-base by those under the age of 21 if the base is located within 50 miles of a country that allows a lower drinking age, the Secretary of the Navy issued a Navy policy (which included the Marine Corps), which prohibited the practice. Until then, on-base drinking by sailors and Marines on bases within 50 miles of Mexico (such as Camp Pendleton) was common.

A couple of years later, the Army followed suit, prohibiting on-base drinking on its bases (such as Fort Bliss, Texas and White Sands Missile Range) which were within 50 miles of Mexico. The Air Force never did allow installation commanders to adopt the "50 mile rule."

In 1997, the Marine Commandant issued a policy which restricted on and off base drinking for Marines stationed overseas to age 21, even if the host-country had a lower drinking age law.

But in September 2006, the Corps lowered the drinking age for Marines in Japan to 20 to reflect the local drinking age.

With respect to the "special circumstances" rule, I should point out that all of the services require the installation commander to get special permission from their respective service headquarters in order to lower the drinking age for these special events. For example, if an Air Force Installation Commander wanted to lower the drinking age requirement for a party to celebrate the Air Force's "Birthday," he or she would need permission of the office of the Air Force Chief of Staff. Because a commander would be literally "sticking their neck out," (in case something happens), in my experience, such permission is almost never requested.

However, The Marines may have a different philosophy. In April 2007, the Marine Corps Commandant signed off on MARADMIN 266/07, allowing 18-year-old Marines to drink in foreign ports if the host nation%u2019s law allows it.

The message also gives the "green light" for Marine Corps commanders to have parties on base where 18 year old Marines can drink, during infrequent special occasions, such as a unit's return from combat deployment, or during the Marine Corps' Birthday Ball. The directive mandates that commanders "ensure that appropriate controls are in place to prevent endangering Military service members or the surrounding community," during such events. "


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# 30:
8:37 pm PST, Nov 18, Kimberly Levan, Pennsylvania
Why the hell not?
# 29:
5:10 pm PST, Nov 16, Elizabeth Rooks, Indiana
my son is in the army he is 19 i think if he is should be able to sit down and have a beer with his buddies and unwind these boys work hard serving there country give them that freedom since that is what they are fighting for
# 28:
7:55 am PST, Nov 13, Name not displayed, California
I have been in the Navy for the last three years. I joined when I was 17. I don't think it is right that a person can enlist in the military and risk their life and not even be considered old enough or mature enough to consume alcohol. If you are old enough to join the military then you should be old enough to consume alchohol. Either the drinking age needs to lower or the enlistment age needs to be raised to 21.
# 27:
7:55 am PST, Nov 13, Name not displayed, California
I have been in the Navy for the last three years. I joined when I was 17. I don't think it is right that a person can enlist in the military and risk their life and not even be considered old enough or mature enough to consume alcohol. If you are old enough to join the military then you should be old enough to consume alchohol. Either the drinking age needs to lower or the enlistment age needs to be raised to 21.
# 26:
1:58 pm PST, Nov 10, Connor Mclaren, Virginia
it think its bullshit i cant drink on base ive joined as soon as i turned 17 and am most likely going to be deployed after i finish school and they wont let me drink wdf
# 25:
2:06 pm PST, Nov 9, Nathan Arnold, Michigan
I am in the United States airforce in a security forces squadron. I know several people who have deployed to iraq or Afghanistan and have not been able to come back home and drink legally. This is just not right several people have been severely injured and killed doing what they did for our country!!! The drinking laws also has ended several good soldiers careers because they were thrown in prison and discharged for something that should definitely not even be illegal in the first place!!!!!
# 24:
10:12 am PDT, Oct 29, Noah Whitaker, Nebraska
# 23:
2:52 pm PDT, Oct 6, Joshua Cook, Wisconsin
I am currently in the armed forces and think this would be nice. Most units would like to go to the bar and have a beer with everyone.
# 22:
8:44 am PDT, Sep 18, ASHLEY Marston, Missouri
YES THEY SHOULD they risk their lives everyday and they should drink a beer when they want to.
# 21:
4:14 am PDT, Sep 18, Alexander Winkle, Missouri
I'm an army combat engineer currently deployed in iraq, i believe i'm responsible enough to go to my home and drink a freaking beer.
# 20:
7:13 pm PDT, Sep 13, Joe Beaman, Illinois
# 19:
1:17 pm PDT, Sep 9, Name not displayed, Iowa
i agree that it should be lowered. It isn't fair that the men and women who protect us that are 18 and risk their own lives can't drink. But yet again they can go and protect us. They should be treated as adults
# 18:
7:07 am PDT, Aug 28, Name not displayed, Illinois
i agree that the drinking age in the military should be lowered beause if you can fight in a war and have to kill somebody so your country stays safe, those people should be allowed to drink.
# 17:
2:10 pm PDT, Aug 10, Michael Hurley, California
At 18 we're considered adults and can do basically what we need to do, like join our countries battle corps. We should be treated like adults
# 16:
11:40 pm PDT, Aug 1, Brianne Chaneyfield, Arizona
# 15:
4:47 pm PDT, Jul 21, Kate Cummings, Kansas
# 14:
4:41 pm PDT, Jul 9, Jorge Arbuster, Alabama
# 13:
12:33 pm PDT, Jul 9, Theresa W, New York
# 11:
3:26 pm PDT, Jun 9, Kelly Wardle, Idaho
If a young man of only 18 can die for our country, then why can't he have a nice cold beer?
# 10:
7:33 pm PDT, Jun 5, PFC GRAY, New Hampshire
# 9:
10:14 pm PDT, May 27, Billy Jacobs, North Carolina
I say the drinking age for military personell should be lowered because if we old enough to risk dying for our country then were old enough to drink alcohol if we please.
# 8:
2:08 pm PDT, May 27, Elaine Robinson, United Kingdom
A soldier needs a drink to help steady his nerves it can't be easy killing someone
# 7:
5:52 am PDT, May 20, Janis Ciofalo, Pennsylvania
The drinking age for military personnel (on and off base)should be lowered to the age of 18. If they are old enough to fight for their Country, they should be old enough to drink in it!
# 5:
4:57 pm PDT, May 19, Edward Willis, Florida
if they are old enough to die for this country then let them drink.because it could be their last.remember that.
# 4:
12:06 pm PDT, May 19, Pam Boland, Georgia
# 3:
5:00 am PDT, May 19, David N Moore, Connecticut
It should be 18 for everyone
# 2:
2:19 am PDT, May 19, Bill C, Germany
# 1:
6:45 pm PDT, May 18, Dustin Tackett, Ohio
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