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LineageII game protection system - say NO to GameGuard

Target: Adam Davidson, Producer, NC Interactive
Sponsor: Alexander Anikin, none
  • Signatures: 910
  • Goal: 50,000
  • Deadline: 2-22-2007

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Number Date Name Country Why I am signing this petition
945 5:55 pm PST, Dec 25 Anonymous United States Cos I won't play any game with gameguard; i'm not messing up my notebook cos i can't use my gamepad.
944 6:51 am PST, Dec 23 Anonymous Russian Federation too many conflicts with software
943 12:12 am PST, Dec 20 Fedor Sumkin Russian Federation It has too many conflicts with all types of software. GG must die!
942 3:04 pm PST, Dec 19 NashmanHB@Hotmail.com Vit Italy l2 don't wanna work with old version GG :'(((( Stupid innova (((
941 2:08 pm PST, Dec 15 Aurum .. Ukraine  
940 10:28 am PST, Dec 14 Anonymous United States I am sick of trying to find a way to bypass gameguard because I want to play my favorite game, and it won't work under WINE.
939 11:55 am PST, Dec 3 Alexander 1 Russian Federation  
938 2:45 am PST, Dec 2 Anonymous Russian Federation  
937 8:53 am PST, Nov 12 Anonymous United States Game Gaurd wont let me use Xpadder and it completely slows my pc to a crawl. I have enough firewalls through my network and on my pc i dont need GG.
936 2:33 pm PST, Nov 10 Anonymous United States Game Guard Has screwed up all my other gaming i play bots online and it has game guard and now that im addicted to bots i dont want to take it off my comp. so no i cant play my other games. SCREW GAMEGUARD
935 11:46 am PST, Nov 2 Anonymous United States  
934 4:33 am PDT, Oct 29 Anonymous Canada GameGuard does not really work anyways. people who want to cheat will find ways around it. The reason i hate it so much is because it's preventing me from playing the games i love on linux(mainly 2moons) i think gameguard needs to go.
933 1:59 pm PDT, Oct 27 papyn chase Malaysia My responsibility probably
932 7:01 pm PDT, Oct 25 Anonymous United States I think it sucks that I can't use a gamepad in games like 2Moons. I want gameguard to allow programs like joy2key or xpadder or else I don't want gameguard at all!!!
931 3:54 am PDT, Sep 10 Anonymous Anonymous United States GameGuard is ANNOYING!!! I'm a previous Windows user, I've been forced to Linux, and have enjoyed ... some of what it has to offer, and i'm not one of those people that have a million things to do online. I enjoy being able to USE my computer when I'd like to. I've searched for weeks looking for a decent game for linux besides "Pengus" (hehe lemmings...hehe) and I can't find any. I find one that actually has a succesful download it tells me I can't play it because of GG. (I've tried on more than just this one) I understand it's to protect the safety of your computer, but that doesn't stop all the hackers in the game or anything. GG Slows your computer down, and basically makes it harder to use. Figuring it's to protect your information then shouldn't it be for your entire system, not just the game? Hackers can get through a game and into your computer...that's what GG is there to stop, but i don't know about anyone else, but I've been hacked before, so I think it's useless to have. GG needs to go
930 8:02 am PDT, Sep 7 garrett way Canada i am signing this petition b/c game guard messes up all the games i try to play and its geting on my nerves if game guard is gone i will be supper happy.
929 5:06 pm PDT, Sep 3 Leon MacCloud Brazil Gameguard does not work on linux. There are people out there that do not use windows. We shouldn't be forced to install a SO just to play a game.
928 4:54 pm PDT, Aug 16 Ankram LAff Mexico This thing crashes my system so i can't play
927 11:06 am PDT, Aug 12 Anonymous Romania If they would made an antihack system at least they should made it right and unnoticeable! It just crashes under my os (vista) and cannot play the game i want.
926 6:19 am PDT, Aug 9 navy_day navy_day United States  
925 4:35 am PDT, Aug 7 Anonymous Vanuatu  
923 2:41 am PDT, Aug 6 Vlad Novoselsky Belarus I can't play lots of games, because I have internet via proxy, and GG blocks application that redirect HTTP traffic via HTTP proxy
921 6:16 pm PDT, Jul 21 Anonymous United States Game Guard makes you computer unsafe. You have to disable firewalls, virus security, and all the other things that keep your computer safe. They sacrifice our computer safety for their game safety(which really doesn't work well). Know I can't play my favorite games.
920 8:11 am PDT, Jul 21 Ryan Zahm United States I want to use Xpadder but many of the games that I want to use it for have gameguard
919 1:06 am PDT, Jul 21 Andrey Grygoryev Ukraine It works like rootkit. As for me it is problem for security. Also I preferred wine which not support functions needed for unsecure actions of GameGuard. But I also want to play some games.
918 3:23 pm PDT, Jul 18 James Smith Canada I am signing this petition for several reasons: for one, GameGuard=rootkit. Secondly, most technical problems are caused by GameGuard. Thirdly, GameGuard is the reason most MMORPGs (and others) can't be played in anything but windows (1 or 2 exceptions exist, for some unknown reasons) number four: GameGuard decreases performance of the game while being totally useless protection: if GameGuard was truly effective, how come there is so much hackers and bots in popular (online) games? Lastly, GameGuard has been proven a hindrance more than anything to gamers over the years in many ways; Why would anyone want to use GameGuard anyway?
917 8:55 am PDT, Jul 15 fanno hundevad Denmark because i cant play games in linux with it ...
916 10:50 pm PDT, Jul 14 jeffrey dumaguin Philippines ad
915 4:14 pm PDT, Jul 14 andrei cimpoca Romania Gameguard causes nothing but trouble. There are other smart ways to check file hashes and memory changes rather then gameguard. It causes more troubles then fixes them. I fully understand the security implications but there has to be some other way.
914 5:15 pm PDT, Jul 8 Lechuck The Pirate Spain GameGuard doesn't allow Shaiya run under Linux +Wine.... bad stuff
913 6:55 pm PDT, Jul 6 Anonymous United States Gameguard is suppose to stop hacking and cheats, instead it make games worse and unplayable. Acclaim/GameHI I'm looking at you. If you want your MMOs to become successful ditch GameGuard
912 2:36 am PDT, Jul 4 Anonymous Greece I Just Hate this GG thing :S
911 5:46 pm PDT, Jun 30 Anonymous We Are Legion United Kingdom As a Linux user, Gameguard harms my system, not allowing me to run such games as Shaiya.
910 12:04 pm PDT, Jun 30 Anonymous United States GameGuard is perhaps one of the best examples of bad design. The program doesn't do its job, and ultimately causes more problems than it would ever help stop even if it DID do its job. It behaves just like any other malware, by inserting itself into system files and potentially corrupting them (Vista users, beware, GG can invalidate your operating system), as well as making itself a pain to remove (hey, sounds kind of a like virus, eh?). But mostly, I sign this petition because any game that uses gameguard does not work on Linux. Not that we'd want GG to work on linux, but rather these game devs get off their asses and manage hackers and bots serverside, not clientside.
909 9:18 am PDT, Jun 30 Anonymous Poland Why do I sign? Quite simple - GameGuard is the worst anti-hacking system ever. In most of "protected" by it games (and I played a lot if them, like Silkroad, 9Dragons, Cabal Online, Last Chaos & Shayia) the botters and hackers do pretty fine, the normal players though are in constant problems with connection slowdown or even disconnections while GG looks for some imaginary hacks.
908 9:32 am PDT, Jun 22 Anonymous United States I am signing because i was tring to play bots and every time it says failure to update. When i do all the stuff it says it still does it.
907 2:20 pm PDT, Jun 19 gameguard sux Greece i am signing this cuz gameguard is nothing more than a damn SOURCE OF PROBLEMS
906 9:07 pm PDT, Jun 18 Vance K United States Gameguard has given me nothing but troubles. Errors / doesn't run for no apparent reason. Have to continually restart the game until GG finally decides to run through.
905 6:05 am PDT, Jun 18 Dima asda Tajikistan  
904 2:12 am PDT, Jun 16 Tite Balls Philippines bikoz of my tite!!
903 5:25 pm PDT, Jun 8 Anonymous United Kingdom Gameguard sucks.
902 5:30 am PDT, Jun 7 M m Tanzania, United Republic Of Gameguard restarts my computer every time it tries to do anything! Its bloody ROOTKIT!! Rootkits are bad for computers!
901 3:02 am PDT, Jun 5 Val Vikol Australia I just purchased Lineage2 cant logon I have wasted countless hours with this Gameguard thing i over the game before i started....Get rid of this tool is total crap

LineageII game protection system - say NO to GameGuard

LineageII (http://www.lineage2.com/) is one of known leaders of MMORPG all around the world.
Some time ago it got external program protection system named GameGuard (http://eng.nprotect.com/nprotect_gameguard.htm).
Since then customers suffer due to regular issues with protection system.
Some programs can't be run during loaded game, soem can't function properly.
On Februrary 21, 2006 there was an update to protection system. New GameGuard version came clashes with even more system software and produces yet again many cases of inability to access game or crashes third party programs allowed by EULA.
As far as general resentment created by GameGuard arises, it's time to make a decision about changing protection utility/system.

First of all, GameGuard increases client lags and memory amount needed for the game.
It was obvious since implementation of Gameguard in C2. Some people say GameGuard takes up to 40% of CPU time and up to 100Mb of memory.
The game with woking GameGuard is quite laggy, that reduces players satisfaction.

Second, GameGuard significantly increases game load time. We have to wait for up to few minutes now to take a look at login screen.

Third, GameGuard conflicts with many applications, used by legit players. Several firewall applications, antivirus applications, remote control applications, program development applicatinos etc. are rendered ineffective or completely useless in conjunction with GameGuard.

Forth, GameGuard utilises protection methods prohibited for user programs. After Febrary 21 update gamemon.des writes something to memory of every active process in the whole system, including system processes. It's not the behaviour allowed to most user applications (or protection systems).

And last, but not least. GameGuard does not function as effective as intended. Countless bot parties are still there. Regardless of effectiveness at first weeks, the problem it was supposed to solve - botting, third party program usage - is not solved to the extent that community will be ever satisfied with.
We come across bots every signle day we enter the game. There are thousands of bots floating around (may be there are even more bots than legit players). The protection system simply doesn't work.
Needless to say, GameGuard was blocked easily by unnamed anti-hack system and after that game plays just fine (http://boards.lineage2.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=529616&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=7&fpart=1#529616). It only proves that GameGuard doesn't work.

I'd like to ask NCSoft NA a change of protection system for LineageII game.
Server-side protection is inevitable necessity in current situation.
Replace GameGuard with something less agressive toward legit players and more effective against unlegit ones.

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