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Save the Syracuse University Swimming and Diving Program

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Daryl Gross, Athletic Director, Syracuse University Athletic Department
Both the Women's and Men's Swimming and Diving Program at Syracuse University are being cut from the school to be replaced with Women's Hockey. The Athletic Dept. Head Dr. Daryl Gross has put reason behind it saying that he feels Women's Ice Hockey will be more competitive in the NCAA. There are only 33 teams for a Syracuse women's ice hockey team to compete against. This is not only ending the 90 years of swimming, but severing the swimming community from Syracuse University. There is little that just the swim team can do  without everyone taking an active role.  Right now, there is nothing that is making them need to re-think their decision.  A petition is just a forum for signatures and complaints at this time.  In addition, I know that there are many alumni upset with this. Current and newly signed swimmers are planning on staying at SU.  If so, let us figure out as a group how we can bring the swim team to its
100th anniversary. Below is contact information for the administration.  Please express your objective complaints, concerns and recommendations.  Dartmouth was able to do it; JMU is fighting the decsion.  Let's be pro-active and let the administration know how much swimming and diving is part of the history, excellence and tradition that is SU!!!! 

Chancellor Nancy Cantor           
315-442-2235                   
ncantor@syr.edu Athletic Director                                                  

Daryl Gross              
315-443-8705                   
djgross@syr.edu Associate AD                                                       

Henry Wildhack       
315-443-4370                    
hwildhac@syr.edu University Senate                                                  

Main e-mail            
315-443-2254                    
kmvetter@syr.edu

Vice Chancellor For Academic Affairs and Provost    
Eric Spina               
315-443-2494                   
efspina@syr.edu Student Association                                               

Wayne Horton                                                
wahorton@syr.edu Dean of Admissions                                              

Susan Donovan       
315-443-3687                    
sedonova@syr.edu

Undergraduate Studies                                          
Judith O'Rourke       
315-443-1899                    
jlorourk@syr.edu

Budget and Planning                                             
Gwen Judge            
315-443-5004                    
gbjudge@syr.edu

Human Services and Government  Relations           
Eleonor Ware           
315-443-3500                    
eware@syr.edu Student Association                                              

Nida Javaid                                                       
nnjavaid@syr.edu Student Affairs                                                     

Barry Wells             
315-443-4263                   
blwells@summon.syr.edu

Judicial Affairs                                                      
Juanita Williams      
315-443 3728                   
jpwillia@syr.edu.
Both the Women's and Men's Swimming and Diving Program at Syracuse University are being cut from the school to be replaced with Women's Hockey. The Athletic Dept. Head Dr. Daryl Gross has put reason behind it saying that he feels Women's Ice Hockey will be more competitive in the NCAA. There are only 33 teams for a Syracuse women's ice hockey team to compete against. This is not only ending the 90 years of swimming, but severing the swimming community from Syracuse University. There is little that just the swim team can do  without everyone taking an active role.  Right now, there is nothing that is making them need to re-think their decision.  A petition is just a forum for signatures and complaints at this time.  In addition, I know that there are many alumni upset with this. Current and newly signed swimmers are planning on staying at SU.  If so, let us figure out as a group how we can bring the swim team to its
100th anniversary. Below is contact information for the administration.  Please express your objective complaints, concerns and recommendations.  Dartmouth was able to do it; JMU is fighting the decsion.  Let's be pro-active and let the administration know how much swimming and diving is part of the history, excellence and tradition that is SU!!!! 

Chancellor Nancy Cantor           
315-442-2235                   
ncantor@syr.edu Athletic Director                                                  

Daryl Gross              
315-443-8705                   
djgross@syr.edu Associate AD                                                       

Henry Wildhack       
315-443-4370                    
hwildhac@syr.edu University Senate                                                  

Main e-mail            
315-443-2254                    
kmvetter@syr.edu

Vice Chancellor For Academic Affairs and Provost    
Eric Spina               
315-443-2494                   
efspina@syr.edu Student Association                                               

Wayne Horton                                                
wahorton@syr.edu Dean of Admissions                                              

Susan Donovan       
315-443-3687                    
sedonova@syr.edu

Undergraduate Studies                                          
Judith O'Rourke       
315-443-1899                    
jlorourk@syr.edu

Budget and Planning                                             
Gwen Judge            
315-443-5004                    
gbjudge@syr.edu

Human Services and Government  Relations           
Eleonor Ware           
315-443-3500                    
eware@syr.edu Student Association                                              

Nida Javaid                                                       
nnjavaid@syr.edu Student Affairs                                                     

Barry Wells             
315-443-4263                   
blwells@summon.syr.edu

Judicial Affairs                                                      
Juanita Williams      
315-443 3728                   
jpwillia@syr.edu.
The Syracuse Post Standard is reporting that Syracuse University will drop men's and women's swimming after the coming season.  The move will be made to free up resources to begin a women's hockey team.Syracuse previously dropped wrestling and men's gymnastics to achieve compliance with Title IX.  In the case of swimming, competitiveness appears to be key.  According to an unnamed source, Syracuse's athletic director Daryl Gross, "Wants to place more emphasis on sports that can compete for NCAA championships" and that a new aquatic center - presumably to make the Orangemen competitive on a national level - would cost $35-50 million. Dr. Phil Whitten, Executive Director of the Collegiate Swimming Coaches Association explained that the decision makes little sense.  "Even with the Northeast being the center of collegiate hockey, there are far more high school swimmers than hockey players. This is doing a gross inservice to the students of Syracuse." According to the Department of Education, the Syracuse men's and women's teams operating budgets were $95,600 each (excluding scholarships and salaries).  By way of comparison, rival schools with women's hockey boasted budgets of $137,772 (Colgate), $99,993 (Cornell) and $133,122 (St. Lawrence).  The obvious advantage of women's hockey, of course, is that there are just thirty-three participating schools making national qualification far easier than in swimming. [Perhaps they should reinstate men's gymnastics considering Syracuse would instantly make the top twenty...considering there's just 17 teams left. -GE]When asked by the Post, Gross was uncommitted "It's premature to talk about it right now.  There are many things in the athletic department's long-term viability that have been researched and discussed at length, and we'll discuss those things at the appropriate time." "What shocks me is that we heard no previous mention of our team being in jeopardy of being cut," said Catrina Roth, a member of the team,"Members of the team found out through this newspaper instead of from our head coach."Added rising junior Peter Gollands, "How can this not make me question all the hard work, sweat and tears I have put into swimming since I was eight years old?  How can I look back on that and say it was worth it, when the school I prayed to get accepted into looks upon my team as dispensable?" Former head coach Jon Buzzard, when told of the news this morning said, "I feel very bad for Lou.  The best thing I can say about my coaching is that I produced a coach better than me." That time gap might offer the swimmers a ray of hope, though the lead time has not proven useful to swimmers at James Madison or Rutgers.If the rumors are to believed, Syracuse will be cutting a team with a 90 year history, though that might not mean much to an AD bent on national level success.  In the thirty-one years of the women's program just two swimmers have qualified for NCAA's.  On the men's side, Syracuse has reguarly been represented at the big meet, though their presense in the Big East as slipped as the conference has grown in recent years.Said Roth "Swimming has been a part of all of our lives since we were little kids. I never knew i could come so far and be accepted into one of the best schools in the nation for my major and be provided with the opportunity to compete at a D1 level. Years of hard work, sweat, and tears are resulting in me being denied to finish all four years of my college career.Guy Edson, of the American Swimming Coaches Association (ASCA) and a 1973 Syracuse grad said, "While some of the high profile sports seems to be training people for professional sports careers.  Swimming prepares people for life.  [Jon Buzzard] was like a second father and I'm sure Lou has become the same to his swimmers as Coach Buzzard was to me. What's going through college all about?  I appreciate football and basketball, but swimming at Syracuse changed my life - to see that missing is a huge heartbreak." John Leonard, Executive Director of ASCA and also a Syracuse graduate, was unavailable for comment, but spoke last week at the CSCAA Convention about proactively saving programs.  One of the things he discussed was the need for teams to immerse themselves in their own communities - something Syracuse has traditionally done.  Explained former Syracuse coach Buzzard, "We worked to build a community outreach program similar to what Dave Robertson of New Trier had formed."  A president of the local school board, Buzzard explained, "We tried to make ourselves valuable to the community so that we'd have support."That's something Syracuse needs now as Gollands pleaded, "Please just help me let it be known to the swimming community that there are swimmers who need some support." -CollegeSwimming.com Here are a few more articles:http://www.swimmingworldmagazine.com/lane9/news/14840.asphttp://www.syracuse.com/articles/sports/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/1180605573113600.xml&coll=1http://www.swimmingworldmagazine.com/lane9/news/14836.asp
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# 4,484:
2:37 pm PDT, Aug 30, Casey Smith, New York
Keep the tradition alive!!!
# 4,483:
4:19 pm PDT, Aug 22, Taylor Solano, New York
I believe that swimming is such a standard sport for any collegiate atmosphere. I cannot recall a single college I have visited or heard of that does not support a swim team. One school in particular that I have visited has under 2000 people and still managed to host a swim team. With Syracuse's size, I believe that the interest in swimming should remain at least level. Watching Michael Phelps, Natalie Coughlin, Jason Lezak, and other great American swimmers, the entire nation was able to witness what a great impact swimming can have on individuals and teams likewise. Just from personal experience, I cannot imagine a college without a swim team. I feel that swimming is just as crucial and fitting as any other sport on campus. Cutting the program will only discourage people more from becoming involved in swimming. Rather than getting rid of swimming, we should find strategies to encourage swimmers to be interested in Syracuse's program. As a swimmer, I know how much the sport has done for my self-esteem, team building, and work ethic. I know that other swimmers have gained just as much. Please reconsider this action. Even if Syracuse swimming may not be recognized on a national level, the team is very important to many people that want to uphold the swimming tradition of this school.
# 4,482:
12:19 pm PDT, Aug 15, James Beaudry, New York
# 4,481:
10:08 pm PDT, Aug 9, Thomas Conway, Texas
Why stop?
# 4,479:
11:05 am PDT, Aug 5, Andi Alnwick, New York
# 4,478:
7:44 am PDT, Aug 3, Monica Nista, New York
save syracuse swimming!!!
# 4,477:
3:59 pm PDT, Jul 31, Michael Reilly, Vermont
Keep the swim teams. Find a way. Afterall, football is noncompetetive with the NCAA, too. I LOVE the notion of women's hockey at SU (I am an alum, M.A. 1983, by the way), but NO NEED TO DROP SWIMMING. Find a way.
# 4,476:
6:27 am PDT, Jul 30, Name not displayed, New York
# 4,475:
3:56 am PDT, Jul 30, Name not displayed, Vermont
Don't cut a quality program! It may not be as high profile as basketball or lacrosse, but it's a great program!
# 4,474:
9:27 pm PDT, Jul 29, Bryan Dague, Vermont
This is a wonderful program with great people. The Syracuse Swimming program should NOT be cut. Please reconsider.
# 4,473:
11:06 pm PDT, Jul 28, Name not displayed, Ohio
# 4,472:
2:22 pm PDT, Jul 14, Bidya Prasad, New Jersey
yes
# 4,471:
6:17 pm PDT, Jul 11, Kathleen Dollard, Illinois
We just recently drove our daughter, Casey, out for her first college visiting tour (she was attending a leadership/medical conference in Boston). It was immediately obvious that our completely unplanned stop in Syracuse was a stroke of luck. We arrived just in time for an info session and tour. We could tell that Casey was completely enthralled with what she was seeing and hearing. She (and we) loved the outstanding tradition, enthusiasm, campus/residence life, and academic excellence that was clearly Syracuse Univ. Throughout the weekend, as we continued our college visits, we kept coming back to Syracuse. Casey has just finished her sophomore year at Fenwick High School (a private Catholic school in Oak Park, IL)--she has a 4.4 GPA and she SWIMS--she qualified for four events at IL High School State Champs both her freshman and sophomore year. In her sophomore year she finished 10th in the 100 back, 200 IM, 200 medley and 400 free relay. Needless to say, she is interested in a college swim program. We inquired about swimming at the admissions office; a representative informed us that, yes, Syracuse had a swim program and that it was Div. I--she even gave us a flyer/form. What a shocking disappointment! On the drive home from Boston, I noticed a little "note" in one of the brochures: the swimming progam was thru (2007-2008). This could not be?! I was never a swimmer, but thanks to my daughter, I have been immersed in the extraordinary work ethic and character-building achievements of this sport. I am convinced that swimmers benefit academically, emotionally, and socially from the "forced" organizational and efficiency skills that swimming demands. I am a graduate of the Univ. of Notre Dame; and tradition plays an enormous role in my perspective of the vitality of a university. I do not profess to know anything about Syracuse Univ. or its athletic director; but I do know that dropping a successful athletic progam, that has been in existence for 90 years, is not something that any top ranked university wants to have on its resume. And please do not note the cost of a new swimming facility as the reason--that portrays a completely ridiculous, naive, negative, and backward-thinking image that I do not think any university would want to admit to...good grief!--HIGH SCHOOLS all over the country have come up with the money to keep their swimming facilities up to date. Hockey is great; I am all for it. But Syracuse needs to look at the big picture--that's not where the bigger interest is, that's not where the larger number of women athletes are, that's not where the larger number of academically acclaimed athletes are, and it certainly is not where the money is. Oh, and Syracuse will need to completely revamp the theme that our tour guide/student gave of the Univ.:TRADITION (change that to $$ signs/misguided management) In short: You have got to be kidding me; Syracuse is going to look very, very bad.
# 4,470:
6:39 am PDT, Jul 5, Garrett Crowley, Massachusetts
I believe in tradition, and discontinuing longtime sports at Syracuse University can only be detrimental in the future.
# 4,469:
10:38 pm PDT, Jul 3, Melissa A Luschenat, Connecticut
This is a terrible decision and is making Syracuse look bad...who cares about how the school looks in rankings? How would you feel if someone decided to yank something you loved right out from underneath you and left you high and dry?
# 4,468:
8:36 am PDT, Jun 14, Richard Larson, North Carolina
It's a bad decision. You'll not only be cutting a successful program, but eliminating alumni support and the life-long benefits of the student-athletes. Add the Hockey, but don't cut another sport in the process.
# 4,467:
6:07 pm PDT, Jun 13, Dekeisha Howard, New Jersey
Syracuse has had great influence and alumni swimmers in the program. As a fellow alumni and swimming spectator I would be saddened to see the program eliminated for Women's hockey.
# 4,466:
12:04 am PDT, Jun 4, Katie McInerney, Massachusetts
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11:21 am PDT, May 29, Andrew Foote, Virginia
# 4,464:
12:58 pm PDT, May 26, Name not displayed, California
# 4,463:
7:01 pm PDT, May 24, Mark Taylor, Texas
Terrible! It is unfortunate that such a great University would treat these student-athletes with such low class tactics. The Athletic Department Staff should be removed from power
# 4,462:
12:47 pm PDT, May 23, Michelle Maguire, New York
# 4,461:
9:06 am PDT, May 21, Eric Williams, New York
# 4,460:
8:45 am PDT, May 20, Andrew Berster, Florida
Cutting a sport is not the way to get another sport. If you think women's ice hockey will be good for SU and we can be competitive, do your job and figure out a way to get that team without cutting a team. Don't take a lazy man's approach.
# 4,459:
11:51 am PDT, May 15, Raymond Schubert, California
All the swimmers I knew at Syracuse were among the few true student-athletes I encountered among all varsity sports. The logged many early hours in the pool and showed true dedication to their sport and the classroom. I am now an early morning masters swimmer that wonders how they did it.
# 4,458:
10:09 pm PDT, May 13, David Lundberg, Utah
# 4,457:
2:12 pm PDT, May 12, Scott Henderson, California
I think it would be extremely unwise to remove the Swimming and Diving program from any University.
# 4,456:
9:32 am PDT, May 12, Vanessa Abuabara, California
# 4,455:
9:19 am PDT, May 12, Adrianne Hughes, California
please don't cut the university swimming program!
# 4,454:
8:47 am PDT, May 12, David Gildea, California
Esteem for Syracuse University goes down a notch without its swim teams.
# 4,453:
8:13 pm PDT, May 11, Lynn Jolly, California
As a former college swimmer I find it devastating that another university is cutting the swimming program.
# 4,452:
6:53 pm PDT, May 11, John McCann, California
# 4,451:
5:57 pm PDT, May 11, Anton Jager, California
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