WHO IS THE TRUE POPE IN CHRIST COMMUNITY
- by: SAMBHUNATH TIADI
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DAVID BAWDEN IS A
TRUE SAINT AND TRUE POPE
OF
THE WORLD CHRISTIAN COMMUNITY
A
True follower of Lord Jesus Christ & Mother Mary
WHO IS REAL POPE %u2013RELIGIOUS LEADERS OF CHRISTIAN COMMUNITY
DAVID BAWDEN OR JOSEPH RATZINGER
POPE MICHEAL OR POPE BENEDICT-XVI
David Bawden
And five other like-minded people gathered together in a modified thrift store in Belvue, Kansas. Their goal was to elect a pope. David received the majority of the votes, and took the name
Pope Michael I
Fast forward 18 years - to 2008.
Followers have come and gone, and Bawden is living in Delia, Kansas with his mother (a follower and an elector), getting the words out via the internet. In a few months, the first of several young men will arrive to train as priests and spread the news of Bawden's election.
"Pope Michael" follows Bawden, his mother Tickie, and the two new seminarians, Phil and Eli, over a period of 14 months from August 2008 to October 2009.
The documentary was completed in February 2010, and is now submitting to film festivals
David Bawden
Spent most of the time in his paternal grandmother's house on 20th Street in Oklahoma City. David Bawden spent much time there as her first natural grand child as she had two step grand-children from her step daughter. Grand father Bawden, who died in 1964, had been married before and his first wife died. Then he met Bawden%u2019s grandmother, who had two sons, George Jr. and his father.
In 1967 David Bawden
Had an Advent Wreath, and this has been part of his family for years. It fell by the wayside for a time, but was revived later on.
Catholicism is not something limited to Mass on Sunday,
Fish on Friday and five dollar sin the collection plate. It is a way of life. And prayer is also part of that way of life. Pictures, statues and pious practices all form part of the Catholic Way of life. And this should start at a young age, in fact even at birth as much as is reasonable
In the mid 1960's the parents of David Bawden became aware of the problems in the United States and eventually joined the
John Birch Society
The purpose of this organization was educational.
Basically they wanted to educate people on what was going on and how the United States was originally established under the Constitution.
Fr. Francis Fenton was on their speaking circuit in the late 1960's, which is when he came to Oklahoma City.
Many in the John Birch Society also became involved in other things, including political campaigns. Father of David Bawden on both the 1957 campaign of George Wallace for President and then John Schmitz in 1972.
For instance one evening David%u2019s father announced that his son was not going to school the next day.
Instead he was taking a speaker around for interviews with various news media and he would go along, because he would learn more doing that than he would in school.
These things helped him for future events.
Many came through the John Birch Society to a realization of the problems of
Vatican II
In fact, many learned how to study here and soon applied these same tools to a
Study of the Catholic Faith.
In fact, it was through the John Birch Society in 1973 that we met Fr. Daniel Jones of Westcliffe, Colorado, who introduced us to Fr. William Daly.
Jones was also active in the Birch Society. In 1973 Bawden was at a convention in Dallas, where some friends of the family met him. They called us and said Jones was driving home and could stop through Oklahoma City, so we extended an invitation to him to stop through and meet the people in Oklahoma City.
In his 12th birthday David Bawden was given a copy of the book %u201CFounded on a Rock by Louis de Wohl%u201D
This began my studies in earnest into Catholicism.
This book took the theme of outlining the various troubles the Church has seen in her history, then would go to in an obscure village a person was born. It would then go on to describe how this person rose from obscurity to sanctity to lead the Church out of the crisis she was in. David Bawden noted that it was written after the usurpation began, so the last few pages need to be amended. What would de Wohl write now? What would he write, if he lived a half century from now?
May God rise up the great saints that will lead us to the Universal Conversion, so the next chapter of Founded on a Rock can be written?
This was an interesting time. The poem below describes how David Bawden grew up with.
He was in parochial school attending daily Mass, when the Nevus Ordo was introduced. I never did like it. Fr. James Dunphy (below) came in the first time in November of 1971 and came several times a year after that until grounded by his Novus Ordo superiors in 1974.
David Bawden had been previously introduced to the Latin Mass by Fr. Graham Walters, who was assistance to Saint Francis in Oklahoma City where he attended Rosary School. Prior to the introduction for the Novus Ordo he said a Latin Mass on Saturdays, and he was assigned to serve one Saturday when he celebrated this Mass.
He recalls her Mom saying at the time, this is how the Mass should be.
Fr. Dunphy had been in two weekends in early November of 1972. On a Tuesday morning, Mom dropped David Bawden at school.
After David got out of the car her Mom looked up at the church and said to herself, I am not going back in there again. She got home as his Dad was getting up for his morning coffee.
She told him her decision, and he said: It is about time. That evening after dinner Mom took David Bawden into the living room. He knew something was up, because we only used the living room for something serious. She then explained to me the decision, which I readily accepted.
Poems
Latin's gone, peace is too,
Singing' and shouting' from every pew,
Altar's turned 'round, priest is too;
Commentator's yelling', "page twenty-two."
Communion rails going', stand up straight!
Kneeling'; suddenly went outta date.
Processions are forming' in every aisle,
Salvation's organized single file.
Rosary's out, psalms are in.
Hardly ever hear a word against sin.
Listen to the lector, hear how he reads.
Please stop rattlin' them rosary beads.
Padre's lookin' puzzled, doesn't know his part;
Used to know the whole deal in Latin by heart.
I hope all the changes are just about done,
That they don't drop Bingo before I've won.
(T. Lincoln Bouscaren, The Updated Church: a Conservative's Comment, April 1965, Homiletic and Pastoral Review)
David Bawden went to their first Mass in the home in November of 1971. Fr. James Dunphy came occasionally as he traveled border to border and coast to coast in the United States
Providing Mass to concerned Catholics.
And thus Traditionalism was born. A few other priests set up chapels at the same time, such as Fr. Francis Fenton, who began the ORCM. Mass was often followed by a dinner and discussion among the people.
David Bawden, members & his followers also assembled occasionally as a group to say Rosary and have a meal and discussion. When anyone found something useful, such as the Quo Premium, it was immediately circulated to all friends and family, near, dear and far.
One might think the internet was fast, but we could get something around the country within weeks. And many things which are now readily available on the internet were hard to find.
But once found, they were circulated rapidly to
In 1973 Fr. Dan Jones came through and introduced us to Fr. William Daly, who came in beginning in 1974.
In the summer of 1974 David Bawden traveled to Chicago with Fr. Daly to see what priestly life would be like. Fr. Daly stopped coming in the spring of 1975.
He had introduced us to the Society of Saint Pius
When Fr. Daly stopped coming, Mom of David contacted the seminary at Armada under Fr. Anthony Ward.
He sent Fr. Hector Bolduc who soon was coming to all three of Fr. Daly's chapels in the middle of the US, Houston, Dallas and Oklahoma City.
Through contacts here he established himself in the central part of the United States a small organization.
By 1976 in conjunction with the Traditional Catholics of Greater Houston he had bought a church in Stafford, Texas, which they renamed St. Jude's Shrine.
Archbishop came for confirmations, where David Bawden was confirmed in May of 1976. However, this chapel fired Fr. Bolduc immediately after Lefebvre's visit. There is not room in this short autobiography to go into all of the details of Traditionalism, but Traditionalism was on a move from its primitive origins.
In early 1976, Fr. Earl Lucian Pulvermacher OFM joined with the Society of Saint Pius X working with Fr. Bolduc out of Houston, coming through Oklahoma City.
He left the Society just before Lefebvre's visit and was replaced by his brother, Fr. Carl Pulvermacher. Fr. Lucian became one of the first independent priests to serve very small groups nationwide, and even into England, baptizing N. Martin Gwynne of Briton's Catholic library in the early 1980's.
However, most independent priests set up a chapel with building or two and feathered themselves a comfortable next there. It should be remembered that few Traditionalist priests refused completely to celebrate the Novus Ordo. Many converted in the mid-1970 when they saw there would be people to support them, such as Fr. Robert McKenna and Fr. Louis Vezelis.
In April of 1982 David Bawden found out that Bishop Peter Martin Ngo Dihn Thuc had consecrated Bishops. I was told Fr. Dan Jones of Westcliffe, Colorado, whom the family of David Bawden (presently Pope Michael) had known for years, had more information. I called Fr. Jones who told me to call Fr. Goerge Musey. David Bawden had first met Fr. Musey the day after Easter, 1979, when he came and said a private Mass at Queen of the Angels SSPX chapel in Dickinson, Texas.
David was summoned by the older nun to come and serve his Mass, being told Fr. Bolduc permitted him to come and say Mass. When he left the SSPX in 1981, than went to Fr. Musey's Mass several times in Topeka, Kansas. However, this was ended by Fred Kilian, when Musey's first planned consecration as Bishop fell through.
A Fr. Grant also in the Houston, Texas area claimed to have been secretly consecrated Bishop and was going to consecrate Musey. Fred and I were ready to travel to this consecration to see what was going on, when it was called off. Musey did find his way to Bishop in April, 1982. I called him and he said he had just returned from Mexico where he had been consecrated Bishop and invited to this meeting in May of 1982 in Dallas, Texas.
There were three laymen present, a translator from Oaxaca, Mexico. Neal Webster, recently returned from his cure at Lourdes was present with Fr. Dougherty and David Bawden himself. Neal and he were there, hoping to be admitted to the seminary to return to their studies for the priesthood.
At noon on the first day, one of the priests present had Neal and David himself excluded from the discussions. They had begun a discussion of the suede vacant, and he believe continued on to the election of a Pope.
By excluding them, they continued the discussion of the election of a Pope in a meeting with Bishop Peter Martin Ngo-Dihn in January of 1983.
However, this was soon to be set aside, as Bishops Musey and Vezelis split, while the independent priests in the United States split from both Bishops.
JOESPH RAT ZINGER/POPE BENEDICT-XVII
IS HE A TRUE POPE LIKE DAVID BAWDEN/POPE MICHEAL
Was born at Marktl am Inn, Diocese of Passau (Germany) on 16 April 1927 .His family was very rich and well touch with Pope Benedict of the tan times. His father was a Police Officer involved with various corruptions, criminalities, terrorism activities etc. Even Joseph Rat Zinger the present Pope Benedict is a vindictive person having revenge mentality.
He and his forefathers are the supporter of Hitler administration and as well as totally anti Christ and against the faith of Catholic in Christian community, though they are old family was farmers from Lower Bavaria of modest economic resources.
Pope Benedict's father served in both the Bavarian State Police (Landespolizei) and the national Regular Police (Ordnungspolizei) before retiring in 1937 to the town of Traunstein.
The Sunday Times of London described the elder Rat zinger as "an anti-Nazi whose attempts to rein in Hitler%u2019s Brown Shirts forced the family to move several times. According to the International Herald Tribune, these relocations were directly related to Joseph Rat zinger, Sr.'s continued resistance to Nazism, which resulted in demotions and transfers.
"Our father was a bitter enemy of Nazism because he believed it was in conflict with our faith," the pope's brother, Goerge Rat zinger, told the New York Times.
Pope Benedict's brother, George, who also became a priest as well as a musician and medievalist, is still living. Pope Benedict's sister, Maria Rat zinger, who never married, managed her Brother Joseph's household until her death in 1991. Their grand Uncle George Rat zinger was a priest and member of the Reichstag, as the German Parliament was called then.
When Rat zinger turned 14 in 1941, he joined the Hitler Youth, membership in which was legally required from 1938 until the end of the Third Reich in 1945.
According to National Catholic Reporter correspondent and biographer John Allen, Rat zinger was an unenthusiastic member who refused to attend meetings.
Rat zinger has mentioned that a Nazi mathematics professor arranged reduced tuition payments for him at seminary. This normally required documentation of attendance at Hitler Youth activities-however, according to Rat zinger; Pope Benedict's professor arranged that the young seminary student did not need to attend those gatherings to receive a scholarship.
Military service (1943 %u2013 1945)
In 1943, when he was 16, Rat zinger was drafted with many of Pope Benedict's classmates into the Flak (anti-aircraft artillery corps). They were posted first to Ludwigsfeld, north of Munich, as part of a detachment responsible for guarding a BMW aircraft engine plant.
Next they were sent to Unterföhring, northwest of Munich, and briefly to Innsbruck. From Innsbruck their unit went to Gilching to protect the jet fighter base and to attack Allied bombers as they massed to begin their runs towards Munich. At Gilching, Rat zinger served in a telephone communications post.
On September 10, 1944, Pope Benedict's class was released from the Corps. Returning home, Rat zinger had already received a new draft notice for the Reichsarbeitsdienst. He was posted to the Hungarian border area of Austria which had been annexed by Germany in the Anschluss of 1938. Here he was trained in the "cult of the spade" and when Hungary was occupied by the Red Army Rat zinger was put to work setting up anti-tank defenses in preparation for the expected Red Army offensive.
On November 20, 1944 Pope Benedict's unit was released from service. Rat zinger again returned home. After three weeks passed, he was drafted into the German army at Munich and assigned to the infantry barracks in the center of Traunstein, the city near which Pope Benedict's family lived. After basic infantry training, Rat zinger served at various posts around the city with Pope Benedict's unit. They were never sent to the front.
In late April or early May, days or weeks before the German surrender, Rat zinger deserted. Desertion was widespread during the last weeks of the war, even though punishable by death (executions, frequently extrajudicial, continued to the end); diminished morale and the greatly diminished risk of prosecution from a preoccupied and disorganized German military contributed to the growing wave of soldiers looking toward self-preservation.
Rat zinger left the city of Traunstein and returned to Pope Benedict's nearby village.
Soon after, two SS members were given shelter at the Rat zinger family house, and they began to make enquiries about the presence there of a young man of military age. Rat zinger%u2019s father made clear to them Pope Benedict's ire against Hitler, and the two disappeared the next day without taking any action.
Cardinal Rat zinger later stated, "A special angel seemed to be guarding us." When the Americans arrived in the village, Joseph Rat Zinger was identified as a soldier, had to put back on the uniform I had already abandoned, had to raise my hands and join the steadily growing throng of war prisoners whom they were lining up on our meadow. It especially cut my good mother's heart to see her boy and the rest of the defeated army standing there, exposed to an uncertain fate..."
Rat zinger was briefly interned in a prisoner of war camp near Ulm and was released on June 19, 1945. He and another young man began to walk the 120 km (75 miles) home but got a lift to Traunstein in a milk truck. The family was reunited when Pope Benedict's brother, George, returned after being released from a prisoner of war camp in Italy.
His mother was the daughter of artisans from Rim sting on the shore of Lake Chiem, and before marrying she worked as a cook in a number of hotels to accumulate more and more wealth, which proves the greediness of his mother. He spent his childhood and adolescence in Traunstein, a small village near the Austrian border, thirty kilometers from Salzburg It was precisely during that complex situation that he discovered the beauty and truth of faith in Christ; fundamental for this was his family%u2019s attitude, who always gave a clear witness of goodness and hope, rooted in a convinced attachment to the Church.
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From 1946 to 1951 he studied philosophy and theology in the Higher School of Philosophy and Theology of Friezing and at the University of Munich. He received his priestly ordination on 29 June 1951.A year later he began teaching at the Higher School of Freising.Always his intention was how to be rich more and more by employing himself in reputed organizations or other institutions.
In 1953 he obtained his doctorate in theology with a thesis entitled "People and House of God in St Augustine%u2019s Doctrine of the Church%u201D. Four years later, under the direction of the renowned professor of fundamental theology Gottlieb Söhngen, he qualified for University teaching with a dissertation on: "The Theology of History in St Bonaventure".
After lecturing on dogmatic and fundamental theology at the Higher School of Philosophy and Theology in Freising, he went on to teach at Bonn, from 1959 to1963; at Monster from 1963 to 1966 and at Tübingen from 1966 to 1969. During this last year he held the Chair of dogmatic and history of dogma at the University of Regensburg, where he was also Vice-President of the University.
From 1962 to 1965 he made a notable contribution to Vatican II as an "expert"; being present at the Council as theological advisor of Cardinal Joseph Fringes, Archbishop of Cologne.
His intense scientific activity led him to important positions at the service of the German Bishops%u2019 Conference and the International Theological Commissioning 1972 together with Hans Urs von Balthazar, Henri de Lubac and other important theologians, he initiated the theological journal "Communio".
On 25 March 1977 Pope Paul VI named him Archbishop of Munich and Freising. On 28 May of the same year he received Episcopal ordination. In spite of different approaches, what was involved and continued to be so, was following the truth and being at its service though truth was far way from Joseph Rat Zinger
Paul VI made him a Cardinal with the priestly title of "Santa Maria Consol trice al Tiburtino", during the Consistory of 27 June of the same year. In 1978 he took part in the Conclave of 25 and 26 August which elected John Paul I, who named him his Special Envoy to the III International Mario logical Congress, celebrated in Guayaquil (Ecuador) from 16 to 24 September.
In the month of October of the same year he took part in the Conclave that elected Pope John Paul II.
John Paul II named him Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith and President of the Pontifical Biblical Commission and of the International Theological Commission on 25 November 1981.
On 15 February 1982 he resigned the pastoral governance of the Archdiocese of Munich and Freising. The Holy Father elevated him to the Order of Bishops assigning to him the Suburbicarian See of Velletri-Segni on 5 April 1993.
On 6 November 1998 the Holy Father approved the election of Cardinal Rat zinger as Vice-Dean of the College of Cardinals, submitted by the Cardinals of the Order of Bishops. On 30 November 2002 he approved his election as Dean; together with this office he was entrusted with the Suburbicarian See of Ostia.
In 1999 he was Special Papal Envoy for the Celebration of the XII Centenary of the foundation of the Diocese of Paderborn, Germany which took place on 3 January.
Joseph Rat Zinger -A anti-Jesus Man
Pope Benedict's father served in both the Bavarian State Police (Landespolizei) and the national Regular Police (Ordnungspolizei) before retiring in 1937 to the town of Traunstein. The Sunday Times of London described the elder Rat zinger as "an anti-Nazi whose attempts to rein in Hitler%u2019s Brown Shirts forced the family to move several times. According to the International Herald Tribune, these relocations were directly related to Joseph Rat zinger, Sr.'s continued resistance to Nazism, which resulted in demotions and transfers.
"Our father was a bitter enemy of Nazism because he believed it was in conflict with our faith," the pope's brother, Goerge Rat zinger, told the New York Times.
Pope Benedict's brother, George, who also became a priest as well as a musician and medievalist, is still living. Pope Benedict's sister, Maria Rat zinger, who never married, managed her Brother Joseph's household until her death in 1991. Their grand Uncle George Rat zinger was a priest and member of the Reichstag, as the German Parliament was called then.
According to Pope Benedict's cousin Erika Kopp, Rat zinger had no desire from childhood to be anything other than a priest. When he was 15, she says, he announced that he was going to be a bishop, whereupon she playfully remarked, 'and why not Pope?'
When Rat zinger turned 14 in 1941, he joined the Hitler Youth, membership in which was legally required from 1938 until the end of the Third Reich in 1945. According to National Catholic Reporter correspondent and biographer John Allen, Rat zinger was an unenthusiastic member who refused to attend meetings. Rat zinger has mentioned that a Nazi mathematics professor arranged reduced tuition payments for him at seminary.
This normally required documentation of attendance at Hitler Youth activities-however, according to Rat zinger; Pope Benedict's professor arranged that the young seminary student did not need to attend those gatherings to receive a scholarship.
Military service (1943 %u2013 1945)
In 1943, when he was 16, Rat zinger was drafted with many of Pope Benedict's classmates into the Flak (anti-aircraft artillery corps). They were posted first to Ludwigsfeld, north of Munich, as part of a detachment responsible for guarding a BMW aircraft engine plant.
Next they were sent to Unterföhring, northwest of Munich, and briefly to Innsbruck. From Innsbruck their unit went to Gilching to protect the jet fighter base and to attack Allied bombers as they massed to begin their runs towards Munich. At Gilching, Rat zinger served in a telephone communications post.
On September 10, 1944, Pope Benedict's class was released from the Corps. Returning home, Rat zinger had already received a new draft notice for the Reichsarbeitsdienst.
He was posted to the Hungarian border area of Austria which had been annexed by Germany in the Anschluss of 1938. Here he was trained in the "cult of the spade" and when Hungary was occupied by the Red Army Rat zinger was put to work setting up anti-tank defenses in preparation for the expected Red Army offensive.
On November 20, 1944 Pope Benedict's unit was released from service. Rat zinger again returned home. After three weeks passed, he was drafted into the German army at Munich and assigned to the infantry barracks in the center of Traunstein, the city near which Pope Benedict's family lived. After basic infantry training, Rat zinger served at various posts around the city with Pope Benedict's unit. They were never sent to the front.
In late April or early May, days or weeks before the German surrender, Rat zinger deserted.
Desertion was widespread during the last weeks of the war, even though punishable by death (executions, frequently extrajudicial, continued to the end); diminished morale and the greatly diminished risk of prosecution from a preoccupied and disorganized German military contributed to the growing wave of soldiers looking toward self-preservation.
In view of above, to whom we should accept as our true Pope or true saint who follow the moral preaching of Lord Jesus Christ and respect to the virgin of blessed Mary.
Whether Pope Michael or Pope Benedict-XVI?
Whether David Bawden or Joseph Rat zinger?
Jesus was born in a stable. His family was very poor. Here I am not talking about old or new statement of the holy bible. I am speaking about truth and the holy thoughts and preaching of Lord Jesus Christ who always followed the truth.
The man like Joseph Rat zinger took discipleship, followed Lord Jesus and after that killed him by crucification by giving misleading information to the than priests and kings/emperor. After his death there are many people who praise Lord Jesus and think him as the true messenger of God and the only son of heavenly father and one can reach to heaven through Lord Jesus Christ the holy son of the father of heaven.
SO HOW CAN I SPEAK OR CALL JOSEPH RAT ZINGER AS A TRUE POPE IN THE PLACE OF DAVID BAWDEN.
IN ONE HAND JOSEPH RAT ZINGER WANTS TO LEADS A COMFORTABLE LIFE IN THE VATICAN CITY ALONG WITH ALL THE ABUDENCES, WHICH WAS HIS INTENTION IN HIS LIFE, NOT FOR SPIRITUAL AND DEVOTIONAL ACTIVITIES.WHERE AS THE TRUE POPE, DAVID BAWDEN THE TRU FOLLOWER OF LORD JESUS & MOTHER MARY WANTS TO BE A TRUE SAINT AND SPREAD THE FAITH
OF CATHOLISM TO THE ENTIRE WORLD.
HENCE, JOSEPH RAT ZINGER THE SO CALLED POPE BENEDICT-XVI I IS NOT A TRUE CHRISTIAN AND ONLY INTERESTED FOR POWER AND POSITIONS EXCEPT POPE MICHEAL (DAVID BAWDEN)
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